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I see many responses, but none of them addressed your real problem, so
I'll give it a shot.

Mike Stephen wrote:

> My sister just arrived for a visit here in western Canada
> (Vancouver) from Australia.  I asked her to bring me a copy of
> the CDROM package that was included with the Australian Personal
> Computer mag.  It has a copy of Warp 4, BEOS 5, And Redhat 6.2.
>
> Well I tried to install Redhat 6.2 on my system. The way I have
> it partitioned is as follows:
> I have two physical drives. the first is a 13 gig IDE, the second
> is a 2 gig SCSI drive.

Looking good so far...

>
> First partition is OS/2 boot manager  (takes up 7 megs)
> Second partition is a 2 gig primary FAT partition that had
> Windows NT 4.0 on it
> Third partition is a 1 gig  primary partition that has Warp 4 on
> it
> Fourth partition is a 6 gig data logical partition formatted with
> HPFS
> Fifth, sixth and seventh are HPFS logical partitions.
> Finally I have an old SCSI drive formatted HPFS of 2 gigs in
> size.
>
> After booting up the CDROM, I went through most of the install
> with no problems until I came to the Druid for the drives.  I
> have rarely seen such a poorly described procedure. This is why
> Linux is abhorred by a great many computer users.

Most of the install?  IIRC, partitioning is early in the process.  BTW,
I agree that it can be a confusing process.

>
> When you are doing something as important as deleting partitions
> there needs to be a far better description of what it is you are
> doing.  Even I could write a better FDISK manager than the one in
> RedHat 6.2.
>
> The Disk Druid allowed me to delete the partition of 2 gigs that
> used to have my NT 4.0 on it.  Although it did not tell me to do
> so, after 10 mins I gathered that to make it format as a Linux
> partition, I had to delete it first.  Now many of you out there
> are now saying "so what, that is easy"  Well Let me tell you.
> the FDISK Druid reports my Boot manager partition as partition 2,
> the NT partition as #3, the Warp partition as #4.  I can tell you
> it is unnerving to say the least when it comes to deleting
> partitions, when the utility to help you determine what
> partitions are what, is distinctly different than the actual
> drive layout according to OS/2 Boot Manager.

The key words being "according to OS/2 Boot Manager".  Linux defines the
partitions by the physical placement on the disk.

>  Anyhow after doing that I was unable to choose to go to the next
> installation screen.

Here I think is your problem.  You must define where the partition will
mount.  And the big thing that I think you are missing, is that the
setup process WILL NOT LET YOU CONTINUE unless you have a ROOT and a
SWAP partition defined.  I banged my head aginst this exact problem for
a few hours(on more than 1 installation) before I realized what my
problem was.   I suspect your problem is that you haven't made a swap
partition (I see no mention of it).  I predict that once you create your
swap partition and define your other partition as root (/), you will be
fine and will be able to install linux with no problem.  BTW if you
think the Red Hat installation process is hairy, you should see
Slackware!

Good Luck!

> So after mucking about with no success, I
> went and chose the FDISK option in the earlier setup screen. This
> at least allowed me a character based fdisk that was able to do a
> bit more.  However, after deleting the NT partition and adding a
> new partition, and then "W"riting it to the disk, I was still
> unable to go beyond to the next installation screen.  After a
> further 20 mins of trying all sorts of other possibilities, I
> gave up. At least the magazine also included a copy of Warp 4. So
> all is not lost.
>
> I guess I can re-install a NT 4 or a Win 2000 on the now empty 2
> gig partition.
>
> BTW I have seen the similar screwups with Caldera, and Corel
> Linux as well, so I assume they are all the same installation
> code.
>
> I can and do install FREEBSD over my DSL connection and this
> works well.  It seems FREEBSD had no troubles with Boot Manager.
> I wish the people writing the Linux installation would wake up!
>
> This is precisely why Linux will never catch up to Windows (And
> believe me I pray that it does).  It needs much improvement over
> its current form.  I fear it will never get that needed
> improvement until a big corp like Sun or IBM takes it on.  And
> that will never happen because the Linux loonies will never let a
> mega Corp do anything with it.
>
> I actually suspect IBM is a bit at fault here with some screwups
> in the OS/2 Boot Manager as well as the Linux crap.  But there
> are millions of OS/2 users who have Boot Manager, and if the
> Linux crowd does not understand how to make an installation work
> with OS/2 boot manager, it only reflects the attitude I have
> always suspected of Linux loonies.
>
> That is they are for the most part , happy with cloning the
> Windows system.  In other words, the Windows crowd has eaten
> porridge every day for their whole lives, and the windows
> refugees who are leaving to go to Linux, are quite happy to
> continue to eat porridge. After all it is the only thing they are
> familiar with and all they are aware of.  This is always the way
> it will be.   OS/2 users on the other hand are more used to
> eating off of a varied menu, and are reluctant to suffer with the
> same porridge.
>
> Damm I wish IBM could separate the upper management from the
> talented software writers, and hire the engineers to run the show
> instead of the current bean counters and idiot sales staff!
>
>
> From the Desk of Mike Stephen
> Micro$oft has performed an illegal operation,
>  and will be shut down.
>
>
> From the Desk of Mike Stephen
> Micro$oft has performed an illegal operation,
>  and will be shut down.