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Re: Red Hat 6.2

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From: Baden Kudrenecky
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:00
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Hi Mike:

   My experience is that I cannot trust Disk Druid.  I
preferably fdisk , add to Boot Manager, and format
partitions as FAT16 all from OS/2, then change the
partition type in Linux fdisk, before Disk Druid.  The
only thing I use Disk Druid for is to select the root
'/'.

baden


In <h2Hvy9VQtMnr-pn2-GZ9R9esGmmie@angn23cy32ch.bc.hsia.telus.net>, mikestp@telus.net (Mike Stephen) writes:
>My sister just arrived for a visit here in western Canada 
>(Vancouver) from Australia.  I asked her to bring me a copy of 
>the CDROM package that was included with the Australian Personal 
>Computer mag.  It has a copy of Warp 4, BEOS 5, And Redhat 6.2.
> 
>Well I tried to install Redhat 6.2 on my system. The way I have 
>it partitioned is as follows: 
>I have two physical drives. the first is a 13 gig IDE, the second
>is a 2 gig SCSI drive.
> 
>First partition is OS/2 boot manager  (takes up 7 megs)
>Second partition is a 2 gig primary FAT partition that had 
>Windows NT 4.0 on it
>Third partition is a 1 gig  primary partition that has Warp 4 on 
>it
>Fourth partition is a 6 gig data logical partition formatted with
>HPFS
>Fifth, sixth and seventh are HPFS logical partitions.
>Finally I have an old SCSI drive formatted HPFS of 2 gigs in 
>size.
> 
>After booting up the CDROM, I went through most of the install 
>with no problems until I came to the Druid for the drives.  I 
>have rarely seen such a poorly described procedure. This is why 
>Linux is abhorred by a great many computer users.  
> 
>When you are doing something as important as deleting partitions 
>there needs to be a far better description of what it is you are 
>doing.  Even I could write a better FDISK manager than the one in
>RedHat 6.2.  
> 
>The Disk Druid allowed me to delete the partition of 2 gigs that 
>used to have my NT 4.0 on it.  Although it did not tell me to do 
>so, after 10 mins I gathered that to make it format as a Linux 
>partition, I had to delete it first.  Now many of you out there 
>are now saying "so what, that is easy"  Well Let me tell you.  
>the FDISK Druid reports my Boot manager partition as partition 2,
>the NT partition as #3, the Warp partition as #4.  I can tell you
>it is unnerving to say the least when it comes to deleting 
>partitions, when the utility to help you determine what 
>partitions are what, is distinctly different than the actual 
>drive layout according to OS/2 Boot Manager.
> 
> Anyhow after doing that I was unable to choose to go to the next
>installation screen.  So after mucking about with no success, I 
>went and chose the FDISK option in the earlier setup screen. This
>at least allowed me a character based fdisk that was able to do a
>bit more.  However, after deleting the NT partition and adding a 
>new partition, and then "W"riting it to the disk, I was still 
>unable to go beyond to the next installation screen.  After a 
>further 20 mins of trying all sorts of other possibilities, I 
>gave up. At least the magazine also included a copy of Warp 4. So
>all is not lost.
> 
>I guess I can re-install a NT 4 or a Win 2000 on the now empty 2 
>gig partition.
> 
>BTW I have seen the similar screwups with Caldera, and Corel 
>Linux as well, so I assume they are all the same installation 
>code.
> 
>I can and do install FREEBSD over my DSL connection and this 
>works well.  It seems FREEBSD had no troubles with Boot Manager. 
>I wish the people writing the Linux installation would wake up!
> 
>This is precisely why Linux will never catch up to Windows (And 
>believe me I pray that it does).  It needs much improvement over 
>its current form.  I fear it will never get that needed 
>improvement until a big corp like Sun or IBM takes it on.  And 
>that will never happen because the Linux loonies will never let a
>mega Corp do anything with it.  
> 
>I actually suspect IBM is a bit at fault here with some screwups 
>in the OS/2 Boot Manager as well as the Linux crap.  But there 
>are millions of OS/2 users who have Boot Manager, and if the 
>Linux crowd does not understand how to make an installation work 
>with OS/2 boot manager, it only reflects the attitude I have 
>always suspected of Linux loonies.  
> 
>That is they are for the most part , happy with cloning the 
>Windows system.  In other words, the Windows crowd has eaten 
>porridge every day for their whole lives, and the windows 
>refugees who are leaving to go to Linux, are quite happy to 
>continue to eat porridge. After all it is the only thing they are
>familiar with and all they are aware of.  This is always the way 
>it will be.   OS/2 users on the other hand are more used to 
>eating off of a varied menu, and are reluctant to suffer with the
>same porridge.
> 
>Damm I wish IBM could separate the upper management from the 
>talented software writers, and hire the engineers to run the show
>instead of the current bean counters and idiot sales staff!
> 
> 
>From the Desk of Mike Stephen
>Micro$oft has performed an illegal operation,
> and will be shut down.
> 
>
>
>From the Desk of Mike Stephen
>Micro$oft has performed an illegal operation,
> and will be shut down.



baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux
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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca    (Baden Kudrenecky)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.2
Date: 2000/10/21
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