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Article #17706Re: gnu utilities...
From: D Hosek
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:08
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:08
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In article <1993Aug23.202305.24038@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes: >In article <CC7zn6.A6J@news.claremont.edu>, D Hosek <dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu> wrote: >>That's not what is being claimed by RMS and others in gnu.misc.discuss: >>in particular, RMS has claimed that code that works only if linked with >>GPL'd code is subject to the GPL (cf. the RIPEM controversy). If a >>non-GPL'd function is available with the same interface, they'll allow >>it. >So, what you're saying is this: >If I use a GNU library function that everybody supports (like the C++ ><iostream.h> class functions), then I can still copyright the >application. >But if I use a function that not everybody supports (like their ><Integer.h> class), I can't. This is what I've gleaned from gnu.misc.discuss, yes. Now, if you wrote a non-GPL'd version of the Integer.h classes, you'd be OK (or if someone else did). The particularly disturbing bit is that RMS & co. don't care whether this usage is central to the program or not (in the case of RIPEM, the relevant code was optional, via #ifdef statements. The program did not need GMP. >Has the FSF made a list of which functions they consider "standard", >and which they consider "GNU-specific"? Such a list would be very >useful. Right now, I have written no C++ OS/2 apps with GCC/2, >because of fear of GNU prosecution. To the best of my knowledge, no. This also falls under the category of "bad things." Despite claims to the contrary, I have not been able to get answers to questions about whether situation X is acceptible under the restrictions of the GPL from the FSF. If I had money to burn, I'd just check with my own lawyer and risk a lawsuit. Note that it's not a matter of universal availability of a given function, but simply the existence of a non-GPL version which makes such a call allowable. It is suspected, but unprovable that this is actually backing down from a stronger stance after realizing that otherwise FSF would be guilty of much the same sort of sin that they chastise Apple and others for. I think that this probably belongs in gnu.misc.discuss so I'm redirecting it there. -dh
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1044c2,69686fd34933555a X-Google-Attributes: gid1044c2,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,e95d6695bb31b9d1,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-08-23 15:30:55 PST Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,gnu.misc.discuss Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.claremont.edu!jarthur.claremont.edu!dhosek From: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu (D Hosek) Subject: Re: gnu utilities... Message-ID: <CC8G67.GDv@news.claremont.edu> Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System) Organization: Quixote Digital Typography, Claremont, CA 91711 References: <745948067snx@redbug.oau.org> <CC7zn6.A6J@news.claremont.edu> <1993Aug23.202305.24038@njitgw.njit.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 22:08:30 GMT Lines: 50