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Started by Curtis Roelle
Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:09
Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Author: Curtis Roelle
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:09
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:09
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Wanting to create an OS/2-bootable 5.25" 1.2MB floppy, and faced with
several apparent choices for accomplishing that goal, I copied the
following three files from os2-ftp.nmsu.edu:
pub/os2/2.0/ibm/ews/boot20.zip
pub/os2/2.0/sysutils/se20boot.zip
pub/os2/2.0/bootdisk.txt
The SE20BOOT.EXE PROGRAM
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The boot20.zip and se20boot.zip files each unzipped to produce the
se20boot.exe program. (Both zip files had the same executable image,
dated 8/20/92 2:27p.) When executed to generate a bootable disk, each
comes back with the following error:
Failure While Copying (RC=112)
I suspect perhaps there is not enough room on a 5.25" disk for the
install. Performing CHKDSK on the A: floppy reports errors, and there
appears to only be about 10KB of space remaining on it when boot disk
creation is aborted. Trying to boot from such an improperly prepared
diskette results in the following error:
The system cannot load the dynamic link library NAMPIPES
which is needed to start the system.
Q: How does one get the se20boot.exe program to work for a 5.25" 1.2MB
diskette? If there are any special switches, then the .zip file should
include a .doc file explaining them.
MANUAL PREPARATION OF BOOTABLE OS/2 DISKETTE
--------------------------------------------
The downloaded bootdisk.txt contains instructions for the manual
geneation of a bootable floppy. In order to get the file set to fit
on a 1.2MB FD, the author (Morton Kaplon) suggests deleting the
PRINT01.SYS file. I find that even when I do this, the files still
occupy more space than is available on the 1.2MB diskette.
Here are the files I tried to copy, and their sizes:
ANSICALL DLL 438 3-30-92 12:00p
BKSCALLS DLL 401 3-30-92 12:00p
BMSCALLS DLL 398 3-30-92 12:00p
BVHINIT DLL 9203 3-30-92 12:00p
BVSCALLS DLL 454 3-30-92 12:00p
CLOCK01 SYS 3666 3-30-92 12:00p
CMD EXE 87552 3-30-92 12:00p
CONFIG SYS 649 1-07-93 1:14a
COUNTRY SYS 24604 3-30-92 12:00p
DOS SYS 1142 3-30-92 12:00p
DOSCALL1 DLL 87884 3-30-92 12:00p
EA DATA SF 16896 1-06-93 11:37p
HARDERR EXE 14436 3-30-92 12:00p
IBM1FLPY ADD 24026 3-30-92 12:00p
IBM1S506 ADD 12908 3-30-92 12:00p
IBMINT13 I13 9564 3-30-92 12:00p
KBD01 SYS 29013 3-30-92 12:00p
KBDCALLS DLL 858 3-30-92 12:00p
KEYBOARD DCP 5177 3-30-92 12:00p
MOUCALLS DLL 1010 3-30-92 12:00p
MSG DLL 477 3-30-92 12:00p
NAMPIPES DLL 711 3-30-92 12:00p
NLS DLL 465 3-30-92 12:00p
OS2BOOT 1099 1-07-93 1:05a
OS2CHAR DLL 56320 3-30-92 12:00p
OS2DASD DMD 31994 3-30-92 12:00p
OS2KRNL 716044 3-30-92 12:00p
OS2LDR 32256 3-30-92 12:00p
OS2LDR MSG 8440 3-30-92 12:00p
QUECALLS DLL 14994 3-30-92 12:00p
SCREEN01 SYS 1441 3-30-92 12:00p
SESMGR DLL 31256 3-30-92 12:00p
SYSINST1 EXE 4224 3-30-92 12:00p
SYSLEVEL OS2 169 3-30-92 12:00p
VIOCALLS DLL 1825 3-30-92 12:00p
35 file(s) 1231994 bytes used
218112 bytes free
A 5.25" disk only had 1213952 bytes on it. Two differences between my
files and those in Mr. Kaplan's instructions:
1. his customized CONFIG.SYS file is 439 bytes compared to mine (649).
This is because I didn't get to the step where the modifications were
discussed. However, the difference here is only around 200 bytes.
2. My "EA DATA. SF" is 16896 bytes while Mr. Kaplan's is only 3584.
Must (can) I make this file smaller (and how?) or can I gain space by
dropping one or more of the above files and still be able to boot
under OS/2?
I have the Service Pack installed on my system, if that makes any
difference. So, what is the proper way to create an OS/2 bootable 5.25"
1.2MB flopy disk?
Sincerely,
Curt Roelle
roelle@sigi.jhuapl.edu
Re: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Author: Kenneth A. Kahn
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:45
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:45
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In <roelle.727715397@uars_mag> Curtis Roelle writes: >Wanting to create an OS/2-bootable 5.25" 1.2MB floppy, and faced with >several apparent choices for accomplishing that goal, I copied the >following three files from os2-ftp.nmsu.edu: I'm afraid it can't be done. There's just no room. An *absolute* minimum system is about 1.3M of disk space. If you have a second disk drive, you can get away with it by moving some files to it and then pointing to them in CONFIG.SYS via "B:\"; some of thse files include CMD.EXE, KEYBOARD.DCP, and VTBL850.DCP (I think that's really it). The next release of SE20BOOT will include the ability to build a 2-disk BOOT system that should allow you to do this automatically.
Re: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Author: Gary Woodman
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:16
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:16
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In article <19930123.035953.532@almaden.ibm.com> KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Kenneth A. Kahn) writes: >In <roelle.727715397@uars_mag> Curtis Roelle writes: >>Wanting to create an OS/2-bootable 5.25" 1.2MB floppy, and faced with >>several apparent choices for accomplishing that goal, I copied the >>following three files from os2-ftp.nmsu.edu: >I'm afraid it can't be done. There's just no room. An *absolute* minimum >system is about 1.3M of disk space. If you have a second disk drive, you >can get away with it by moving some files to it and then pointing to them >in CONFIG.SYS via "B:\"; some of thse files include CMD.EXE, KEYBOARD.DCP, >and VTBL850.DCP (I think that's really it). I successfully put UHPFS.DLL on B: (after extending the LIBPATH, of course). >The next release of SE20BOOT >will include the ability to build a 2-disk BOOT system that should allow >you to do this automatically. Thank heavens for that! OS/2 is _not_ going to get any smaller... -- Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au This post made from 100% recycled electrons.
Re: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Author: Jack S. Tan
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:30
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:30
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roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle) writes: > I have the Service Pack installed on my system, if that makes any > difference. So, what is the proper way to create an OS/2 bootable 5.25" > 1.2MB flopy disk? This method may not be proper, but it does work: format the diskette to a higher-capacity, nonstandard format. Using FDFORMAT (available from various anonymous FTP sites), I was able to create a 1.47MB diskette, on which I created my boot diskette. OS/2 is able to boot from such a disk, unlike DOS. Also, when you are prompted for the install diskette in making the boot disk, you can use the boot disk from the CSD. It seems to work also. Hope this helps. -- Jack Tan If your parents didn't have kids, jahk@uiuc.edu chances are you won't either.
Re: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette
Author: Erik Kovach
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:49
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:49
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In article <C1F7BD.77s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan) writes: >This method may not be proper, but it does work: format the diskette to a >higher-capacity, nonstandard format. Using FDFORMAT (available from various >anonymous FTP sites), I was able to create a 1.47MB diskette, on which I >created my boot diskette. OS/2 is able to boot from such a disk, unlike >DOS. Also, when you are prompted for the install diskette in making the >boot disk, you can use the boot disk from the CSD. It seems to work also. Or, if you're running FAT on ANY partition that is reachable from boot, put the CMD.EXE and the HPFS.IFS onto the FAT partition and change the CONFIG.SYS file on the boot disk to point to THOSE files. Now the data will fit on a 1.2.
FDFORMAT (was: Trying to create OS/2-Bootable 5.25" Diskette)
Author: larry.a.shurr
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:39
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:39
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In article <C1F7BD.77s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan) writes: }roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle) writes: }> I have the Service Pack installed on my system, if that makes any }> difference. So, what is the proper way to create an OS/2 bootable 5.25" }> 1.2MB flopy disk? }This method may not be proper, but it does work: format the diskette to a }higher-capacity, nonstandard format. Using FDFORMAT (available from various }anonymous FTP sites), I was able to create a 1.47MB diskette, on which I }created my boot diskette. OS/2 is able to boot from such a disk, unlike }DOS. Also, when you are prompted for the install diskette in making the }boot disk, you can use the boot disk from the CSD. It seems to work also. Yes. It appears that OS/2 actually uses the BIOS Parameter Block on the floppy disk (I think that's the data structure) instead of that horrid, kludgy media byte. Thus, it works with (almost) any geometry you can manage to format onto a floppy disk. I say almost because it doesn't seem to understand double density, double track density (720K) 5.25 floppy disks -- it looks like it double steps the head as though it was single track density. Of course, such formats are officially "out-of-spec" so IBM evidently thinks you shouldn't be able to format such beasts. You must use FDFORMAT under DOS (the "real thing," not a VDM). Larry -- Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com) speaking only for myself. Norman, listen carefully. I am lying. Are you sure your circuits are registering? Your ears are green. Logic is a little bird singing in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad! - Mr. Spock
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