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In article <93025.133917DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that there is a Macintosh emulator
for two reasons: hardware and the Macintosh copyrights that they have been,
well, anal about.  Macintosh-formatted disks, I am pretty sure, cannot be
read by PC's (although if you have a Mac, PC disks can be read/altered, so
use a Mac to convert a file to FAT file system and THEN use the Macutils
program).

In article <enk2.91.728024888@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.
>I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that there is a Macintosh emulator
>for two reasons: hardware and the Macintosh copyrights that they have been,
>well, anal about.  Macintosh-formatted disks, I am pretty sure, cannot be
>read by PC's (although if you have a Mac, PC disks can be read/altered, so
>use a Mac to convert a file to FAT file system and THEN use the Macutils
>program).

The company that makes Mac-in-DOS (or is it Mac-in-PC?), the utility
that reads Macintosh diskettes on a PC, apparently has an OS/2 version
as well.  I'm afraid I don't have more details though.  Please let us
all know what you find out.

As for Macintosh programs running on OS/2, there have been persistent
rumors to that effect (starting a long time ago in Byte, most
prominently).  Due to the Apple/IBM alliance, most observers expect
this to occur in one form or another at some point in the future.

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In article <1993Jan26.052731.6887@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>The company that makes Mac-in-DOS (or is it Mac-in-PC?), the utility
>that reads Macintosh diskettes on a PC, apparently has an OS/2 version
>as well.  I'm afraid I don't have more details though.  Please let us
>all know what you find out.

Anyone know the details of this????  This campus is BIG with Mac's.

In article <enk2.91.728024888@po.cwru.edu>, enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
> In article <93025.133917DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.
> 
> I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that there is a Macintosh emulator
> for two reasons: hardware and the Macintosh copyrights that they have been,
> well, anal about.  Macintosh-formatted disks, I am pretty sure, cannot be
> read by PC's (although if you have a Mac, PC disks can be read/altered, so
> use a Mac to convert a file to FAT file system and THEN use the Macutils
> program).


  This a shareware program that read/write Mac high density disk only. It does
work under a dos window.  I don't remember what sight I ftp from but if you
email I can send it to you. 


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In article <1993Jan26.105149.15281@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> dlfrost@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
>  This a shareware program that read/write Mac high density disk only. It does
>work under a dos window.  I don't remember what sight I ftp from but if you
>email I can send it to you. 

Would you kindly forward a copy to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous ftp.
Place it in /pub/uploads.  I think it is of sufficient interest to
OS/2 users to be included at ftp-os2.

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In article <enk2.91.728024888@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>In article <93025.133917DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.
>
>I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY doubt that there is a Macintosh emulator
>for two reasons: hardware and the Macintosh copyrights that they have been,
>well, anal about.  Macintosh-formatted disks, I am pretty sure, cannot be
>read by PC's (although if you have a Mac, PC disks can be read/altered, so
>use a Mac to convert a file to FAT file system and THEN use the Macutils
>program).
You can read Mac disks directly as long as they are high density (super
drive) formatted disks.  I have a program called Mac-in-DOS which works
great...even under OS/2.  I use it all the time.  

As far as Apple copyrights go, the Atari ST and Amiga both have full
function Mac emulators that are just about 100% compatible to a Mac Plus.
They actually reqire you to plug real Mac 128k roms into them.  There is
no reason something similar couldn't be done with a PC (other than the
fact that ther PC uses an Intel processor while the above mentioned machines
all use Motorolas).  But stay tuned...I have heard something interesting
along these lines from Gadgets by Small, Inc.


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In article <93025.133917DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET writes:
>Is there anything available for OS/2 that will do MacIntosh emulation. Does
>anyone know if this is even possible. And if not, at least a utility to read
>in MacIntosh files. I tried the macutils found on hobbes, but that seemed to
>be for reading Mac files into Unix, and not OS/2. Thanks for any info.

I know of no products, but...

1) You'd need a 68000 processor card to do this, since Mac programs
   run on one, and even a 486 would have a hard time emulating it.

2) You'd need a set of ROMs (or disk images) to provide the Mac's
   Toolbox functions.  Real Mac ROMs wouldn't work, since they'd have
   to re-map their functions into something OS/2 could trap and use -
   otherwise, the board would need it's own memory and video circuits,
   and putting the Mac session in a window would be tricky, at best.
   Then again, maybe OS/2 could virtualize the Mac's display as well
   as it's own...

3) IBM's can read Mac 1.44MB format diskettes with software alone.
   The Mac's 800K format, however, is unique, and would require extra
   hardware to get a PC to read them.  At one point, Central Point
   software made a "Copy II PC option card" which would replace your
   floppy controller and (among other things) let you read Mac disks.



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OK, Mac-ette.zip is at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/uploads. Don't know what
zipper I used. I think it's pkzip204c.

Btw: the new pkzip204e is out and is supposed to solve the DPMI-problem.
That is, it detects if it run in an os2 dos-box and then doesn't use DPMI
any more.

Greetings.

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