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In Article <QfNV4qu00iUxI_7Uk_@andrew.cmu.edu> "Ke-Wei Ma <km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>" says:
>     I was just reading some doc regarding that OS/2 2.1 beta does not
> support Radius XGA-2 video board.  My question is of what use is a XGA
> compatible card if it isn't hardware compatible?  I must be missing
> something so someone please enlighten me.
 
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  Note that the README file with the 2.1 beta says the Radius card is not
  supported "YET".   This implies that it will be.   It is because of the
  card not being microchannel (I know because I asked this list :-)

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In article <QfNV4qu00iUxI_7Uk_@andrew.cmu.edu> km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ke-Wei Ma) writes:
>
>    I was just reading some doc regarding that OS/2 2.1 beta does not
>support Radius XGA-2 video board.  My question is of what use is a XGA
>compatible card if it isn't hardware compatible?  I must be missing
>something so someone please enlighten me.
>
>Ke-Wei

I think the deal with the current XGA drivers is that they
must be MicroChannel specific.  The card-specific code is 
probably compatible, it is the code which handles any kind of
i/o with the card which must be different for an ISA board.

Ken.

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Re:   Radius XGA-2 ISA board not supported by OS/2 (yet).
 
 
Gee.  And Radius wants full list price of $499.00 for it,
and is only selling direct!!
 
Sounds like a great way to shot oneself in the foot.
Lucky for them it's not they're only product nor that they're a startup co.
.. joe.f.
p.s. $499.00  .. no thanks I'll pass at least for now.

In article <1993Jan28.212350.18897@njitgw.njit.edu>
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
.... (deleted)
>A Microchannel device driver can not be the same as an ISA driver.
>That is, ISA drivers may work with MCA cards, due to general
... (etc)
 
THIS brings up an interesting point.  I'm sure I can get a lot of comments
from the net and unofficial ones from IBM 'netters' but I wonder if I-B-M
can respond ooooohh-fficially:
 
Question:  Since Radius licenses XGA-2 from IBM will IBM guarantee OS/2 support
for R's XGA-2 card as long as IBM supports its own XGA card?
 
IF the Radius card needs drivers beyond what IBM supplies with the OS (i.e
drivers from Radius,   then I'm no better off then I am with my
_________ (fill in the blank) __________   SVGA clone card.
 
I.E.  I'm still STUCK depending on the 3rd party vendor to supply drivers
for the latest / greatest version of my favorite O.S. every 6 months to a year.
Which then means a lot of waiting and catching up and 'sorry charlie' when new
versions of OS/2 (or applications) come out.
 
This is crazy!   Back when 8514 ISA clones were coming out it was real
important to ask if it was *REGISTER* compatible with IBM's 8514/A
and not just an 8514/a 'emulator' that required drivers.  That way you just
installed OS/2 or CAD/CAM and said its an 8514/A and it worked.  No drivers,
no hanging out on a limb etc. nothing!
 
I am getting a sense that things are changing in that even IBM equipment needs
device drivers these days but at least IBM keeps up the support for a year or
two before it gives you the kiss-off.   E.G.  Look at 8514/A its discontinued
about 1(+)years now but they still work and there's drivers coming for 2.1.
Eventually IBM will say 'support dropped' but by then it will pretty old stuff.
and who here could complain?
 
Whereas my favorite SVGA board maker tells me they don't support drivers for
the original, & to buy version II now, if I want OS/2 drivers and BTW they'll
be out 6 months after IBM gift wraps a development kit for them and sends them
a personal invitation to support their video cards in OS/2.  :-(
 
And to add insult to injury Radius is demanding double what IBM wants for the
MCA version.
             the world sure is changing! :-)  .. joe.f.
 
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