SICK of DIAMOND products ???? Me to !!!!!

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3 total messages Started by horst Fri, 08 Dec 1995 00:00

#24

Author: horst
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 1995 00:00

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G'day,

I'm a masochist trying to run Linux and OS/Warp on a computer that
has:
-DIAMOND Stealth 64 DRAM video card
-DIAMOND modem
-DIAMOND soundcard
-DIAMOND Cd ROM which is actually a Teac 55a

I figured out how to install the video drivers in Warp, it took me
2 weeks and 2 cartons VB (Australian beer, without the beer it would
have taken 2 months because the installation procedure is made by drunks
for drunks). There is no chance for Linux I've heard because DIAMOND wants
to keep its secrets so I didn't even bother to install Linux.
The modem is working ok even without instructions.
The soundcard and the Cd ROM are giving me a hard time, I'm trying to
install OS2 WARP from a Cd but no way. I tried the NEW Opti 929 driver
which is supposed to work with the Diamond sound card and the Teac 55a
driver. B.....dy f....ing no way. Sorry!! I think the hardware is quite
good I just can't understand Diamonds stupiod attitude not to support
OS2 and Linux. I don't want to be stuck with DOOF or WINGHOS, I'd rather
fire up my COMMODORE VC64 or my ZX81 again. 
The other option would be to buy new hardware and I'm seriously thing about it,
any suggestions what to buy? Anybody interested in buying cheap DIAMOND stuff?

Regards from Horst (who is so mad that he shouldn't have posted this but
who might have helped other sufferers from Diamond desease)

Re: SICK of DIAMOND products ???? Me to !!!!!

#22

Author: David Shepherd
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 00:00

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horst@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au wrote:
: G'day,

: I'm a masochist trying to run Linux and OS/Warp on a computer that
: has:
: -DIAMOND Stealth 64 DRAM video card
: -DIAMOND modem
: -DIAMOND soundcard
: -DIAMOND Cd ROM which is actually a Teac 55a

: I figured out how to install the video drivers in Warp, it took me
: 2 weeks and 2 cartons VB (Australian beer, without the beer it would
: have taken 2 months because the installation procedure is made by drunks
: for drunks). There is no chance for Linux I've heard because DIAMOND wants
: to keep its secrets so I didn't even bother to install Linux.

The problem with Diamond was that they were happy to release info
about the setup for their video cards (I don't think it was anything
particularily special) but only under NDA. Linux, or more correctly,
Xfree release their code under GPL which requires source code hence
they could not release driver code for Diamond cards. This lead to
the usual response from GPL bigots that Diamond were thus inherently
evil as they wanted to "control information" and thus should be
boycotted and no-one should try to support their products.

While I have never tried to run Linux/XFree I do know that at the
same time as everyone was up in arms about Diamond that the Xfree
FAQ did contain a pointer to an independent site were the relevant
setujp programs could be found in binary form!

BTW, it puzzles me why GPL people haven't stuck in a test to
prevent Linux running on Pentiums as surely Intel with the
infamous Appendix H are at least as evil as Diamond!

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                               david shepherd
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Re: SICK of DIAMOND products ???? Me to !!!!!

#23

Author: Christopher Blackmon
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:00

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In message <DJF7LB.4LH@uns.bris.ac.uk> - des@pact.srf.ac.uk (David Shepherd) 
writes:
:>The problem with Diamond was that they were happy to release info
:>about the setup for their video cards (I don't think it was anything
:>particularily special) but only under NDA. Linux, or more correctly,
:>Xfree release their code under GPL which requires source code hence
:>they could not release driver code for Diamond cards. This lead to
:>the usual response from GPL bigots that Diamond were thus inherently
:>evil as they wanted to "control information" and thus should be
:>boycotted and no-one should try to support their products.
:>


That was a while back... my Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (s3-864) runs
fine under OS/2 and linux... (yes... XFree and all... even
at 1024x768x256)


:>While I have never tried to run Linux/XFree I do know that at the
:>same time as everyone was up in arms about Diamond that the Xfree
:>FAQ did contain a pointer to an independent site were the relevant
:>setujp programs could be found in binary form!
:>


This was only needed with the cards that had a variable dot clock
(like the old s3-928 Diamond Stealth Pro/VLB card)



Christopher Blackmon, N4VGK
ckblackm@nando.net

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