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In article <93026.111925FARID@FRECP12.BITNET> Farzad FARID <FARID@FRECP12.BITNET> writes:
>  We've got got a Token Ring network with 200 computers running either
>ms-dos 5.0 or OS/2 2.x with (Dos ) Lan Requester 3.0 and TCP/IP OS/2 1.2.1.
>Many people under Dos use CUTCP or Winqvtnet with the Clarckson packet
>drivers, and I've found a neat implementation of the POP3 protocol that uses
>these packet drivers and Turbo Vision. We would like to generalize the use
>of TCP/IP and POP for our mail because we can use our Sun's mailer without
>having yet another mail circuit that would only work on the PCs.We've even
>found a POP implementation for Mac.
>Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any implementation of the protocol
>under OS/2 :(. So I'd like to use temporarily the dos apps. My question
>is : Is there any way to get Lan Req 3.0, TCP/IP 1.2.1 and the packet
>drivers work together ? I've vaguely read that Lan Req 3.0 can run a certain
>number of Dos network apps, but of course these are mainly IBM's software
>(those that use netdev.sys for example).
>  Can anyone help me by telling me if it is possible or not and, even
>better, if there is a POP3 implemetation under OS/2? Thanks.

It will work if you have Network Transport Services/2, which provides
802.2 services to the DOS sessions.  Assuming your software can speak
802.2, you'll be all set.

NTS/2 is available from IBM Direct in the United States for about $55.
IBM Direct can be reached at 800-IBM-2-YOU.

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In article <1993Jan26.171936.26519@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>>under OS/2 :(. So I'd like to use temporarily the dos apps. My question
>>is : Is there any way to get Lan Req 3.0, TCP/IP 1.2.1 and the packet
>>drivers work together ? I've vaguely read that Lan Req 3.0 can run a certain
>>number of Dos network apps, but of course these are mainly IBM's software
>>(those that use netdev.sys for example).
>>  Can anyone help me by telling me if it is possible or not and, even
>>better, if there is a POP3 implemetation under OS/2? Thanks.
>
>It will work if you have Network Transport Services/2, which provides
>802.2 services to the DOS sessions.  Assuming your software can speak
>802.2, you'll be all set.


    After following the discussions about NTS/2, I have a question.  Does 
this only work with token ring?  (it seems that anyone who has talked about 
it is running token... and only token)

Thanks
-Adam
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In article <aml4.43.728105459@po.cwru.edu> aml4@po.cwru.edu (Adam M. Lambert) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.171936.26519@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>
   ....... Stuff about 802.2 services to DOS VDMs deleted....
>
>
>    After following the discussions about NTS/2, I have a question.  Does 
>this only work with token ring?  (it seems that anyone who has talked about 
>it is running token... and only token)
>
>Thanks
>-Adam
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>     Adam M. Lambert    |  Internet:  aml4@po.cwru.edu
>   CWRU, Cleveland, OH  |    Bitnet:  aml4%po.cwru.edu@cunyvm
>       "Forgive us our I/O errors as we forgive those whose
>                  logic circuits are faulty." 
>=-=-=-=

I am glad to say that I have been using NTS/2 over Ethernet for the last 
several weeks.  It's wonderful and very easy to install.

aml4@po.cwru.edu (Adam M. Lambert) writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.171936.26519@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>>It will work if you have Network Transport Services/2, which provides
>>802.2 services to the DOS sessions.  Assuming your software can speak
>>802.2, you'll be all set.

>    After following the discussions about NTS/2, I have a question.  Does 
>this only work with token ring?  (it seems that anyone who has talked about 
>it is running token... and only token)

NTS/2 works fine with ethernet - AS LONG AS you don't want to do what the
original poster wants to.  Namely, the Virtual 802.2 emulation in the VDMs
does not support ethernet flavored packet drivers.  Packet driver <->NDIS
shims do not work either.  Only strict 802.2 applications are said to work
with 802.2 in VDMs on ethernet, and I don't have any of these to test.  ALl
I do know, is that the IBMTOKEN.COM packet driver, which is supposed to use
the 802.2 interface, does not work on an ethernet equiped machine, though it
appears to initialize properly.

More than that, I do not know...   (All of this made my day after being told
throughout development of NTS/2 that it would solve my problems with programs
that require packet driver support.  :-( )

Don
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rm113@cus.cam.ac.uk (R. Moss-Eccardt) writes:

>I am glad to say that I have been using NTS/2 over Ethernet for the last 
>several weeks.  It's wonderful and very easy to install.

Ah, but are you using packet drivers in VDMs, alongside LAN Requestors or 
TCP/IP 1.2.1?  That is what doesn't work on ethernet equipped machines.

IBM could have solved more problems by virtualizing the NDIS interface to 
the VDM(s).  Now *that* would be useful/flexible/valuable improvement!

Don
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internet:     dlmeyer@uiuc.edu		
member:       NRA, ISSC, IL Farm Bureau	 "Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian!"
					    Nancy Lord in '96!

"Clinton/Gore -- The American people deserve what they voted for!"