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In <3333bbb8.0@usamrid.isd.net>, chucks@isd.net (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>In article <33310a0a.0@news.rz.uni-passau.de>, hermann@calvin.fmi.uni-passau.de (Michael Hermann) wrote:
>>In article <33305cf6.0@usamrid.isd.net>, chucks@isd.net (Erik Funkenbusch)
>> writes:
>>|> In article <333008b1.0@news.essex1.com>, bgqhr!drrdw0.bnl (Chris J.
>> Alumbaugh) wrote:
>>|> >What a lame, ignorant post, from someone who defends a certain other
>>|> >software company whose dismal record on ship dates is overshadowed only by
>>|> >horror stories of ~43 yr old "lost" letters from the postal service.  IBM
>>|> >has "delievered" quite a bit of the technologies that are the computer you
>>|> >are running, and let's see,, Microsoft made a mouse and BOB and a some
>>|> >other stuff that  I have even a lower opinion of.  Yeah, I guess Microsoft
>>|> >delievered on Windows 95 and active X and IE,, but I got to say, I'll take
>>|> >"dead" IBM technology ANY day over what MS dellievered. Can you say
>>|> >CAIRO=1994??  Wouldn't happen to have a harddrive with PMRL technology
>>|> >would you?
>>|> 
>>|> Excuse me?  NT 3.1 didn't even come out until 1993, Cairo wasn't even
>> planned 
>>|> until 1994.  How the hell could it have been late before it was even 
>>|> announced?
>>|> 
>>|> Fact is, the vast majority of MS products are delivered ON TIME or *EARLY*.
>>
>>MS rarely ever delivers on time, and if they do it is too buggy to
>>be of any use.
>
>That's strange.  I use MS products every day, lots of them.  All of them are 
>extremely useful or I wouldn't be using them.  I also don't not any bugs of 
>any consequence in daily usage either.

That's because you probably don't mind them.  No one here considers you 
an objective source of information.  Just because you don't encounter 
bugs in the daily basis  does not mean they are not there.  

>
>>I don't recall exactly when Cairo was announced and what the scheduled shipping
>>date was, but it has past for a while now and cairo has been moved from an
>>OS version to a technology collection (to not show how late it really is).
>
>depends on what you call "much".  As of SP3 more than half of what Cairo was 
>will be in current versions of NT.  Yes, there are still some nice missing 
>pieces like PNP support, but to be honest, I'd rather they concentrate on 
>other areas.
>
>>Parts of Cairo are available now, much is still missing, well over a year
>>after it should have been available.
>
>Hmm.. Well, we know that Apple and IBM always make their deadlines for every 
>OS they've ever produced, right?
>
>>Win95 should have been out at the end of 93.
>
>Hmm.. I'd like to see some evidence about this ship date.
>
>>Win97 should have been out by now.
>
>Says who?  It's barely 97 right now.. MS has *NEVER* given a date when Memphis 
>would ship.


No one in the industry ever gives very exact dates when things will ship
until a month or two before the occasion.  The clear exception was the 
do or die August 24 date 1995 for Windows 95 but then everyone was 
expected Windows 4.0 since 1994.

What everyone gives is an expected time frame like "expected to be 
released in the 3rd quarter of '97" blah blah blah.  All you need to 
know is to pass that expected time frame to know something is very late.


>
>>NT 5.0 should be out RSN but is delayed unitl 98.
>
>Now why would NT 5 ship just a few months after NT 4?  This is completely 
>silly.

Why don't you read all the online press and how they expected NT 5 in 
2nd half of '97?

Rgds,

Chris


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One Giant Leap backward for Mankind."
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