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In <4c572g$ae@queeg.apci.net>, Poconnor@apci.net   (James O'Connor) writes:
>All
>
>	Does anyone know an ftp site from which I can download the gnu C++ 
> compiler for OS/2?
>	Thank you
>
>James O'Connor
>Framework Technologies
>oconnor@apci.net
>
>"Going places unmapped, to do things unplanned, to people unsuspecting"
>

Try "ftp-os2.cdrom.com."

Do you or anyone who read this article know if I can actually
develop PM apps with GNU C++?

Van

In <4c5ovq$h0d@cloner3.netcom.com>, VanCLy@ix.netcom.com writes:
>In <4c572g$ae@queeg.apci.net>, Poconnor@apci.net   (James O'Connor) writes:
>>All
>>
>>	Does anyone know an ftp site from which I can download the gnu C++ 
>> compiler for OS/2?
>>	Thank you
>>
>>James O'Connor
>>Framework Technologies
>>oconnor@apci.net
>>
>>"Going places unmapped, to do things unplanned, to people unsuspecting"
>>
>
>Try "ftp-os2.cdrom.com."
>
>Do you or anyone who read this article know if I can actually
>develop PM apps with GNU C++?
>
>Van

Yes, you need the OS/2 developers toolkit for the headers and a few other
things and you can use GNU/EMX C++ for OS/2.

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In <4c5ovq$h0d@cloner3.netcom.com>, VanCLy@ix.netcom.com writes:
>In <4c572g$ae@queeg.apci.net>, Poconnor@apci.net   (James O'Connor) writes:
>>All
>>
>>	Does anyone know an ftp site from which I can download the gnu C++ 
>> compiler for OS/2?
>>	Thank you
>>
>>James O'Connor
>>Framework Technologies
>>oconnor@apci.net
>>
>>"Going places unmapped, to do things unplanned, to people unsuspecting"
>>
>
>Try "ftp-os2.cdrom.com."
>
>Do you or anyone who read this article know if I can actually
>develop PM apps with GNU C++?
>
>Van
Actually, I only need it to produce some Resource Only DLLs.  IBM VisualAge
 for Smalltalk uses C DLLs to hold ICONS for there Parts.  I have Borland C++
 4.5 for Windows to do Windows DLLs, but I need something for OS/2.
  Thank you for your reply.

James O'Connor
Framework Technologies
oconnor@apci.net

"Going places unmapped, to do things unplanned, to people unsuspecting"

James O'Connor (Poconnor@apci.net) wrote:

: 	Does anyone know an ftp site from which I can download the gnu C++ 
:  compiler for OS/2?

ftp.cdrom.com  or ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  The former is suggested.  Download
the filelist for yourself and find out the directory it resides.

Henry

In <4c5ovq$h0d@cloner3.netcom.com>, VanCLy@ix.netcom.com writes:
>In <4c572g$ae@queeg.apci.net>, Poconnor@apci.net   (James O'Connor) writes:
[...]

>Do you or anyone who read this article know if I can actually
>develop PM apps with GNU C++?
>

  Yes. Also OpenGL and direct-video games/animation, with other *free*
software.

>Van


jbwest@wolfenet.com / jbwest@acm.org / jbwest@waseattle.waii.com | downsized!

In <4c6due$g63@daily-planet.execpc.com>, jbrekke@execpc.com writes:
>In <4c5ovq$h0d@cloner3.netcom.com>, VanCLy@ix.netcom.com writes:
>>In <4c572g$ae@queeg.apci.net>, Poconnor@apci.net   (James O'Connor) writes:
>>>All
>>Do you or anyone who read this article know if I can actually
>>develop PM apps with GNU C++?
>>
>>Van
>
>Yes, you need the OS/2 developers toolkit for the headers and a few other
>things and you can use GNU/EMX C++ for OS/2.

  I beg to differ. You do not *need* OS2 dev tk to write PM apps. EMX will
compile PM apps right out of "the box"; some of the examples/tests are 
PM apps.  There are several free toolkits for various types of layering for
PM apps well, but, the PM API headers & graphics & such are all there in
EMX.

>


jbwest@wolfenet.com / jbwest@acm.org / jbwest@waseattle.waii.com | downsized!

jbwest@wolfenet.com wrote:

:   I beg to differ. You do not *need* OS2 dev tk to write PM apps. EMX will
: compile PM apps right out of "the box"; some of the examples/tests are 
: PM apps.  There are several free toolkits for various types of layering for
: PM apps well, but, the PM API headers & graphics & such are all there in
: EMX.

However, it's kind of light in the documentation and tools area so the toolkit
is definitely recommended if you can afford it.  On the other hand, I was in a
bookstore here in Houston before Christmas and saw a book on YACL.  I don't have
the cash to get it, though.

jguthrie@brokersys.com writes:


>However, it's kind of light in the documentation and tools area so the toolkit
>is definitely recommended if you can afford it.  On the other hand, I 
>was in a
>bookstore here in Houston before Christmas and saw a book on YACL.  I 
>don't have the cash to get it, though.

Just how much and what kind of documentation does the toolkit come with? I'm
thinking about getting it, but it's not a small ammount of money.  Does it
just help a little or is it REALLY worth it?

-- 
      Jason  Hardt                   Ignorance surrounding me, 
toma@expert.cc.purdue.edu            I've never been so filled with fear,
       Team OS/2                     All my life's been drained from me,
     Mithril Dragon  -==(UDIC)==-    The end is drawing near...

Jason Hardt (toma@expert.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: jguthrie@brokersys.com writes:


> >However, it's kind of light in the documentation and tools area so the toolkit
> >is definitely recommended if you can afford it.  On the other hand, I 
> >was in a
> >bookstore here in Houston before Christmas and saw a book on YACL.  I 
> >don't have the cash to get it, though.

> Just how much and what kind of documentation does the toolkit come with? I'm
> thinking about getting it, but it's not a small ammount of money.  Does it
> just help a little or is it REALLY worth it?

I have never bought a copy of the toolkit alone, I always got it as part of a
package and the documentation that comes with this is all on-line.  I believe
that printed copies of all this documentation is available at extra cost, but
it is (in my current opinion) better to get some third-party book and use the
on-line info for reference than to buy copies of the toolkit documentation.

V3.0 of the toolkit contains references and guides for programming Multimedia,
SOM, the Workplace Shell, the Presentation Manager, the GPI subsystem, and the
OS/2 control program.  It also has a REXX Reference, a reference for the tools
provided with the toolkit, and a guide and reference to the Information
Processing Facility used to generate .INF and .HLP files.  Of these, I personally
found the Control Program information most useful because the Control Program
is what handles system calls.  That info is ESSENTIAL if you're going to do
device programming.

If you really are strapped for cash, and aren't going to build applications that
use help and don't come with on-line documentation and don't use any of the
features of SOM, then don't get the toolkit.

> V3.0 of the toolkit contains references and guides for programming Multimedia,
> SOM, the Workplace Shell, the Presentation Manager, the GPI subsystem, and the
> OS/2 control program.  It also has a REXX Reference, a reference for the tools
> provided with the toolkit, and a guide and reference to the Information
> Processing Facility used to generate .INF and .HLP files.  Of these, I personally
> found the Control Program information most useful because the Control Program
> is what handles system calls.  That info is ESSENTIAL if you're going to do
> device programming.
> 
> If you really are strapped for cash, and aren't going to build applications that
> use help and don't come with on-line documentation and don't use any of the
> features of SOM, then don't get the toolkit.

        There may be an alternative.  I am strapped for cash too, and
unwilling to pay 225$ can for the DEVCON CDs.  So I wrote a letter to IBM
(devcon@vnet.ibm.com) to request a special subscription.  Rather than paying
225$ can for a one year subscription where I receive 4 packages, I would
prefer to receive only one package for 56.25$ can (1/4 of the total price).
This way, I would obtain all the documentation, the toolkit, and some other
gooddies.  The answer I received was that MOST developers like to receive
quaterly updates, and so there was no incentive to change the policy.
So let the programmers speak up, and say your piece.  Maybe we'll get IBM
to revise their policy and provide programmers with the information they
require to write OS/2 applications.

        Stephane [TEAM OS/2]
        The future is available right now!