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Article #454Re: C2 Security
From: David Boles
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:14
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:14
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In article <terryk.711987309@cc.gatech.edu> terryk@terminus.gatech.edu (Terry Kane) writes: > >Orange book ratings used in general computing are overkill. >Basically, I think that non-defense users are looking at two or three >categories: unsecure and generally secure. The protection that's >desired is protection against malicious or ignorant attacks on the >integrity of the system. ACLs on the file system and device drivers >provide this, and ACLs are provided at the C2 level. > >Hence - I want C2 from my operating system. I'll provide physical >security, and if anybody wants to steal my data by monitoring >electromagnetic emissions - Hey, more power to 'em. Sorry to disappoint, but C2 does not requires ACL's for devices. That is a B1 feature. C2 is the _minimal_ level of security that provides even a reasonable level of security in the face of an attack. Nevertheless, your point about orange book ratings typically being overkill is correct. Even something as "wimpy" as C2 can be extremely limiting in a shared computing environment. Unfortunately, Msoft is setting up NT as being a replacement for server-type OS's at large sites. As a result, I guess they felt that they would have to make some noise about security issues to sound like they knew what they were doing. However, they started saying C2 before they apparently knew what was involved, then backpedaled on it saying that the government (NCSC) was moving too slowly. Given that the pre-beta SDK just shipped doesn't even include the filesystem, we can all tell who didn't have their act together. It seems that security in the orange book sense doesn't make much sense for most folks however. It focuses on things like loss or alteration of information. While these things are certainly important, for most non-military related systems, attacks (malicious or inadvertant) that result in denial of service are just as important. Cheers, David Boles
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hermes.chpc.utexas.edu!apas611 From: apas611@chpc.utexas.edu (David Boles) Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer Subject: Re: C2 Security Message-ID: <1992Jul24.201426.5137@chpc.utexas.edu> Date: 24 Jul 92 20:14:26 GMT References: <976@engcon.marshall.ltv.com> <terryk.711987309@cc.gatech.edu> Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC Lines: 38