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Article #838Re: A question or three.
From: Harisankar Ramishan
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:53
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:53
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In article <1992Aug14.003106.24719@hellgate.utah.edu> brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes: >In article <1992Aug13.173409.25915@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes: >... >>They have similar concepts, but the MS API makes you do more work. >>You have to call functions that, IMO, should be called automatically >>when the program loads. > >Agreed, though NT fixes one important problem that PM still has. >If one PM app blocks to do something time consuming (instead of >using a thread) then all PM programs will be hung waiting for that >PM app to finish. This happens because PM has one global event queue. >Win32 has an event queue per process (like X does). > >Brian Brian, How does NT (or X) handle the problems of having multiple event queues? I remember reading Dror and Lafore's discussions of the need for a single event queue, and they offered the following situation: User clicks on an icon, and _knowing_ the application intimately, moves the mouse over to where a button WILL appear, clicks there. [ie., just like type ahead]. If you have multiple event queues, then you have no clue which process handles the second click. So the result is unpredictable. In the case of a single event queue, the process controls exactly what does happen. ie, it acts like a 'disable interrupts' directive, till it is setup. If indeed the user is to be able to go and click somewhere and have another app take action, then the first process does this by immediately returning control to the system and proceeding via a second thread. Else, it keeps control. So ... how IS the user protected in the case of multiple event queues? How can he be assured that the time ordering of his mouse or keyboard actions is preserved? For eg, Suppose one icon backs up a log file, and another icon deletes the log file <stupid eg, but possible>. And the user rapidly but sequentially clicks first on the backup and then on the delete. How can he be assured that the backup happened BEFORE the delete? Or are we simply relying on the fact that computers are faster than people? hari hsr@uclaph.physics.ucla.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ucla-cs!ucla-mic!ucla-physics!hsr From: hsr@physics.ucla.edu (Harisankar Ramishan) Subject: Re: A question or three. Message-ID: <1992Aug14.215355.9286@physics.ucla.edu> Organization: UCLA Department of Physics References: <1992Aug11.222749.29690@panix.com> <1992Aug13.173409.25915@njitgw.njit.edu> <1992Aug14.003106.24719@hellgate.utah.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:53:55 GMT Lines: 47