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3 total messages Started by Brian {Hamilton Kelly} Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:00
Info sought on: Upgrading 486/33 to something more modern
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Author: Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:00
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I'm still running a 486/33 bought new in 1992 (when the complete system
cost exceeded four thousand pounds!).  [Actually, I "upgraded" it
recently, by plugging in a 486DX2/66 chip that someone gave me.  It
knocks spots off my GF's machine, which is also a 486DX2/66 with 32MB,
but runs ("crawls" might be more apposite:-) Windows'95.]

I see from the catalogue of a supplier that I use that they're doing an
upgrade offer at the moment, and I'd like advice as to whether what is on
offer would be good at running OS/2 Warp V4 (with FP6), since one hears
so many horror stories about incompatible mother boards and video cards.


The package they have put together consists of:
    Gigabyte GA586 T2 Motherboard
    IBM PR200MX CPU
    Heatsink Fan
    2 x 16MB EDO SIMMS *or* 32MB SDRAM
    4MB S3 Verge DX PCI Graphics card
all for GBP145 + VAT
    
Has anyone experience of running any or all of this under OS/2?  I'm
particularly trepidatious about the video card, because I've seen so many
moans about S3 (IIRC).

One other caveat that's worrying me is the lack of ISA slots on the mobo.
I see that there are only 3.  My present system (in a full tower case,
with 9 ISA slots) has many of them filled; I have
    HDC/FDC with 2 IDE controllers
    Serial/Parallel card (usual 2xCOM, LPR, Joystick)
    Enhanced VGA video card (based on ET4000)
    Archiv streamer controller (daisy-chained from the FDC)
    3Com 3C509Combo Ethernet card
    Dynalink Datasound MWave combo modem/sound card
    Teles-S0.3/16 ISDN card

Now obviously the first two of those are now integrated into the
motherboard, and the thrid is going to be occupying one of the PCI slots.
But I'm going to want all the other facilities still: I guess the easiest
(cheapest?) solution would be to get a PCI-based Ethernet card, wouldn't
it?

All advice gratefully received; please reply to the groups or by e-mail
(but not both).  I promise to summarize any e-mail responses that aren't
otherwise mentioned in net.news.

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
      "You're one of the very rare few who can argue ad hominem, ad absurdum
       and ad nauseam simultaneously...worse still it looks like you want to
       carry on ad infinitum..."               WPSM on alt.config 1998/06/27
Re: Info sought on: Upgrading 486/33 to something more modern
#111
Author: Laurence Nixon
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:00
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
> 
> [Note cross-posts; if replying, please remove bit.listserv.os2-l from the
> Newsgroups line unless you are already subscribed to that list, or don't
> mind the "rejection" messages :-) ]
> 
> I'm still running a 486/33 bought new in 1992 (when the complete system
> cost exceeded four thousand pounds!).  [Actually, I "upgraded" it
> recently, by plugging in a 486DX2/66 chip that someone gave me.  It
> knocks spots off my GF's machine, which is also a 486DX2/66 with 32MB,
> but runs ("crawls" might be more apposite:-) Windows'95.]
> 
> I see from the catalogue of a supplier that I use that they're doing an
> upgrade offer at the moment, and I'd like advice as to whether what is on
> offer would be good at running OS/2 Warp V4 (with FP6), since one hears
> so many horror stories about incompatible mother boards and video cards.
> 
> The package they have put together consists of:
>     Gigabyte GA586 T2 Motherboard
>     IBM PR200MX CPU
>     Heatsink Fan
>     2 x 16MB EDO SIMMS *or* 32MB SDRAM
>     4MB S3 Verge DX PCI Graphics card
> all for GBP145 + VAT
> 
> Has anyone experience of running any or all of this under OS/2?  I'm
> particularly trepidatious about the video card, because I've seen so many
> moans about S3 (IIRC).
> 
> One other caveat that's worrying me is the lack of ISA slots on the mobo.
> I see that there are only 3.  My present system (in a full tower case,
> with 9 ISA slots) has many of them filled; I have
>     HDC/FDC with 2 IDE controllers
>     Serial/Parallel card (usual 2xCOM, LPR, Joystick)
>     Enhanced VGA video card (based on ET4000)
>     Archiv streamer controller (daisy-chained from the FDC)
>     3Com 3C509Combo Ethernet card
>     Dynalink Datasound MWave combo modem/sound card
>     Teles-S0.3/16 ISDN card
> 
> Now obviously the first two of those are now integrated into the
> motherboard, and the thrid is going to be occupying one of the PCI slots.
> But I'm going to want all the other facilities still: I guess the easiest
> (cheapest?) solution would be to get a PCI-based Ethernet card, wouldn't
> it?
> 
> All advice gratefully received; please reply to the groups or by e-mail
> (but not both).  I promise to summarize any e-mail responses that aren't
> otherwise mentioned in net.news.
> 
> --
> Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
>       "You're one of the very rare few who can argue ad hominem, ad absurdum
>        and ad nauseam simultaneously...worse still it looks like you want to
>        carry on ad infinitum..."               WPSM on alt.config 1998/06/27
I see the board has a pr200mmx which means its actually a Cyrix Chip.
With that in mind the motherboard should be fine. As for isa slots for
controller cards.  That board has built in controllers no cards needed. 
But your correct on the video part S3 sucks when it comes to OS/2 Warp 4
does have better support than ver 3 though.  Well good luck.
Re: Info sought on: Upgrading 486/33 to something more modern
#112
Author: MZ
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 00:00
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> wrote:

> [Note cross-posts; if replying, please remove bit.listserv.os2-l from the
> Newsgroups line unless you are already subscribed to that list, or don't
> mind the "rejection" messages :-) ]
> 
> I'm still running a 486/33 bought new in 1992 (when the complete system
> cost exceeded four thousand pounds!).  [Actually, I "upgraded" it
> recently, by plugging in a 486DX2/66 chip that someone gave me.  It
> knocks spots off my GF's machine, which is also a 486DX2/66 with 32MB,
> but runs ("crawls" might be more apposite:-) Windows'95.]
> 
I am still running 486 VLB motherboards from 1992 using the Kingston/AMD
5x86 TurboChip. It's excellent value. Plugs into the 486 cpu slot. Runs
OS/2 (and W95 when I must) beautifully. I highly recommend it. And the
advantage for you - as was for me - is that you could continue using all
the pieces you know and have carefully selected, and wouldn't need to go
through "trial by retailer" again.



-- 
MZ
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