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12 total messages Started by sistel Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:29
Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#5
Author: sistel
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 13:29
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Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 
which I also attached my CDROM on and it's working fine.

Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated. Please post them here.
Thank in advanced.

TK ;)
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#6
Author: Paul Eddie
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:28
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sistel@ibm.net wrote:
: Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
: recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
: even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
: DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
: use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 

I have a syquest drive, and on hobbes there is a syquest driver but I have
postings where people use the syquest drivers to work with zip drives.  I too
had problems with my removable syquest until I got the drivers from hobbes.
Personally, I prefer the lockflt driver which locks the drive for the session.
Just a question of whether you want removability with slow access, or fast access
with no disk swapping...


Paul
eddie@web.apc.org
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#7
Author: Mike Laster
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:43
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In article <443mg1$1bcc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
 <krisnant2021@duq3.cc.duq.edu> wrote:
>Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
>recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
>even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
>DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
>use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 
>which I also attached my CDROM on and it's working fine.
>
>Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated. Please post them here.
>Thank in advanced.

The only real solution I've found is to buy an IOMega Zip-Zoom and use it.
It's not 100% functional, as there is no OS/2 port of ZIP tools, but it's the
best you're going to get under OS/2.  Call IOMega and complain loudly to them
about not supporting *STANDARD* SCSI.  Maybe if enough people complain, they
will release some ASPI drivers.
-- 
================================================================================
 Mike Laster (lasterm@hpserv.utulsa.edu)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today I dialed a wrong number....The other side said, "Hello?" and I said,
"Hello, could I speak to Joey?" They said," Uh, I don't think so...
He's only two months old." I said, "I'll wait..."
================================================================================
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#8
Author: Bylee Benjamin Y. Lee
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:39
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>In article <443mg1$1bcc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
> <krisnant2021@duq3.cc.duq.edu> wrote:
>>Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
>>recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
>>even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
>>DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
>>use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 
>>which I also attached my CDROM on and it's working fine.
>>
>>Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated. Please post them here.
>>Thank in advanced.

Try the syquest drivers.  I'm using them successfully to read from my zip
drive (can't write to it yet though because I don't have dos installed and
can't figure out how to otherwise un-write protect the only disk I have
which is the tools disk - any hints?  can I do it form a dos bootdisk?).

Only problem with the syquest drivers is that it puts the zip drive as a 
second primary partition instead of as the last drive letter which means
you get things shuffled a bit which is especially bad if your os/2 partition
is logical.  For me though, I only have one partition on my laptop's puny
drive so things worked out fine...

                                                -Ben

  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Team OS/2 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 
 | "Don't marry a person you can live with, // "Imagination is more important |
 |  marry someone you can't live without." //   than knowledge..." - Einstein |
  '''''''''''''''''''' Bye BYe BYle BYLe BYLee BYLEe BYLEE ''''''''''''''''''' 
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#10
Author: Doug Samsel
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 20:11
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In message <446bm0$d10@utulsa.utulsa.edu> - lasterm@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu (Mike
 Laster) writes:
:>
:>In article <443mg1$1bcc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
:> <krisnant2021@duq3.cc.duq.edu> wrote:
:>>Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
:>>recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
:>>even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
:>>DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
:>>use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 
:>>which I also attached my CDROM on and it's working fine.
:>>
:>>Any help or suggestion is greatly appreciated. Please post them here.
:>>Thank in advanced.
:>
:>The only real solution I've found is to buy an IOMega Zip-Zoom and use it.
:>It's not 100% functional, as there is no OS/2 port of ZIP tools, but it's the
:>best you're going to get under OS/2.  Call IOMega and complain loudly to them
:>about not supporting *STANDARD* SCSI.  Maybe if enough people complain, they
:>will release some ASPI drivers.
:>-- 
:>================================================================================
:> Mike Laster (lasterm@hpserv.utulsa.edu)
:>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:>Today I dialed a wrong number....The other side said, "Hello?" and I said,
:>"Hello, could I speak to Joey?" They said," Uh, I don't think so...
:>He's only two months old." I said, "I'll wait..."
:>================================================================================

What SCSI driver did you use to get Warp to recognize the card?

Thanks,
Doug
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#9
Author: darrylm
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 23:23
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In <443mg1$1bcc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, sistel@ibm.net writes:
>Does any of you have been able to *USE* Zip drive under OS2? OS2 does 
>recognized my drive, but I can't access it. It asked me to format the disk,
>even though it's already formatted for PC. The drive is working fine under
>DOS/Win (dual boot with OS2), I can read the disk from DOS. I've tried to
>use the OAD driver from Iomega, but it doesn't support my Adaptec 2940 
>which I also attached my CDROM on and it's working fine.

I recall from some where that if you format a zip drive under dos OS/2 not going 
to see it same as if you formated in os/2 dos isn't going to see it.  Not sure if theirs
a fix or not or where I saw it.

Later
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#11
Author: Bylee Benjamin Y. Lee
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 05:24
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Just following myself up to say that the syquest drivers work fine for my
scsi zipdrive except as I noted before it uses it as a primary partition.
It reads/writes the same format as dos so you don't have to reformat the
disks like you do if you don't run any drivers and apparently works with
just about any scsi card.  So besides the caveat about putting the zipdrive
as primary, it works real well (I just did a backup and the compression
actually was holding things up rather than the drive - my laptop is only
a 486-50).

Now if only iomega would rewrite their drivers like syquest did with the
added bonus of not putting the drive letter as a primary partition, that would
be perfect.

                                                -Ben

  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Team OS/2 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 
 | "Don't marry a person you can live with, // "Imagination is more important |
 |  marry someone you can't live without." //   than knowledge..." - Einstein |
  '''''''''''''''''''' Bye BYe BYle BYLe BYLee BYLEe BYLEE ''''''''''''''''''' 
Re: Help! SCSI Zip drive under OS/2 :(
#12
Author: sistel
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 14:42
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In <4472cs$qkl@news1.inlink.com>, samsel@inlink.com (Doug Samsel) writes:
>
>What SCSI driver did you use to get Warp to recognize the card?
>
>Thanks,
>Doug
>

I am using AIC7870.SYS in my CONFIG.SYS
You can download it from Adaptec FTP (ftp.adaptec.com)

Regards,
Tito Krisnanto ;)
ZIP drive success with OS/2! Backup question?
#13
Author: Doug Samsel
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:14
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In message <4482qh$f4g@cnn.Princeton.EDU> - Bylee@   (Benjamin Y. Lee) writes:

:>
:>Just following myself up to say that the syquest drivers work fine for my
:>scsi zipdrive except as I noted before it uses it as a primary partition.
:>It reads/writes the same format as dos so you don't have to reformat the
:>disks like you do if you don't run any drivers and apparently works with
:>just about any scsi card.  So besides the caveat about putting the zipdrive
:>as primary, it works real well (I just did a backup and the compression
:>actually was holding things up rather than the drive - my laptop is only
:>a 486-50).
:>
:>Now if only iomega would rewrite their drivers like syquest did with the
:>added bonus of not putting the drive letter as a primary partition, that would
:>be perfect.
:>
:>                                                -Ben
:>
:>  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Team OS/2 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 
:> | "Don't marry a person you can live with, // "Imagination is more important |
:> |  marry someone you can't live without." //   than knowledge..." - Einstein |
:>  '''''''''''''''''''' Bye BYe BYle BYLe BYLee BYLEe BYLEE ''''''''''''''''''' 
:>
:>
I too am following up on my recent post. I downloaded the Zip drivers from 
hobbes (v. 2.33), and after cleaning up my config.sys file  (it had 
a line that was looking for an adaptec card as I had noticed that the zip 
zoom scsi is actually made by adaptec. BTW the readme file or the manual 
file that comes with the disk warned me of this), I have my zip up and 
running. My system has 2 EIDE HD's (1 meg and 1.2 meg), a SCSI CD-ROM 
attached to a PAS-16 sound card (trantor SCSI I think), and now my ZIP drive. 
Theyt are configured/partitioned as follows:

drive 1
c: 	primary	100mg	DOS/win3.11	FAT	
c:	primary	250mg	Win95		FAT
d:	logical	250mg	win programs	FAT
e:	logical	250mg	win programs	FAT
f:	logical	150mg	win data files	FAT

drive 2
g:	logical	250mg	OS/2 swapper	HPFS
h:	logical	250mg	OS/2 empty	HPFS
i:	logical	250mg	OS/2 data files	HPFS
j:	logical	250mg	OS/2 programs	HPFS
k:	logical	280mg	OS/2 system	HPFS

CD-ROM (trantor scsi)
l:	2x CD

ZIP drive
m:	logical	100mg	utilities		FAT

The drivers selected the drive letter and I am very pleased as I was 
concerned from reading other posts that it would format itself as a primary 
partition and mess up all my file structures. From what I can tell, under 
warp the ZIP functions just like a floppy and I can change disks whenever I 
want to. 

Now for my question, is there any backup software that does compression that 
would work with this setup and allow me to reboot from floppy then restore 
from the ZIP drive?

Thanks,
Doug
Re: ZIP drive success with OS/2! Backup question?
#14
Author: bbenson
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 04:23
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In <44bf6h$7k2@news1.inlink.com>, samsel@inlink.com (Doug Samsel) writes:
>Now for my question, is there any backup software that does compression that 
>would work with this setup and allow me to reboot from floppy then restore 
>from the ZIP drive?

Yes!  Our Back Again/2 Personal Edition features several levels of data compression,
a full GUI interface, a complete scheduler capable of scheduling up to 48 backup jobs,
a standalone restore utility for complete disaster recovery capability, and more! 
A demo is available as BA2PR31D.ZIP on our BBS at (612)730-4157 and may also be
found on ftp.cdrom.com.  The eval edition also supports SCSI and IDE tape drives,
but since you don't need that support, the Personal Edition is what you want.   The
SRP is $49.95 but you can find it cheaper from a number of OS/2 resellers.

Thanks,
Brad Benson
CDS, Inc.
Re: ZIP drive success with OS/2! Backup question?
#15
Author: Melkor
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 18:24
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In message <44d80p$okj@nnrp4.nfs.primenet.com> - bbenson@primenet.com writes:

:>Yes!  Our Back Again/2 Personal Edition features several levels of data compression,
:>a full GUI interface, a complete scheduler capable of scheduling up to 48 backup jobs,
:>a standalone restore utility for complete disaster recovery capability, and more! 
:>A demo is available as BA2PR31D.ZIP on our BBS at (612)730-4157 and may also be
:>found on ftp.cdrom.com.  The eval edition also supports SCSI and IDE tape drives,
:>but since you don't need that support, the Personal Edition is what you want.   The
:>SRP is $49.95 but you can find it cheaper from a number of OS/2 resellers.

Is the SCSI and IDE support the primary difference between the Personal and 
Professional edition?  Could you comment on the other differences?  The 
folks at Indelible Blue weren't really able to answer my questions the other 
day.  Did say they sold alot of BA/2 though.

How about upgrades?  If the personal edition does it for me now but later I 
need more function, is there an upgrad discount?

...melkor@millcomm.com
...http://www.millcomm.com/~melkor
...Red Rider  -  CBR600F2  -  "A life without risk is no life at all"
...I speak for myself since no one else will let me speak for them
Re: ZIP drive success with OS/2! Backup question?
#16
Author: bbenson
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 19:34
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In <44mmcq$mae@news.MillComm.COM>, melkor@millcomm.com (Melkor) writes:
>In message <44d80p$okj@nnrp4.nfs.primenet.com> - bbenson@primenet.com writes:
>
>:>Yes!  Our Back Again/2 Personal Edition features several levels of data compression,
>:>a full GUI interface, a complete scheduler capable of scheduling up to 48 backup jobs,
>:>a standalone restore utility for complete disaster recovery capability, and more! 
>:>A demo is available as BA2PR31D.ZIP on our BBS at (612)730-4157 and may also be
>:>found on ftp.cdrom.com.  The eval edition also supports SCSI and IDE tape drives,
>:>but since you don't need that support, the Personal Edition is what you want.   The
>:>SRP is $49.95 but you can find it cheaper from a number of OS/2 resellers.
>
>Is the SCSI and IDE support the primary difference between the Personal and 
>Professional edition?  Could you comment on the other differences?  The 
>folks at Indelible Blue weren't really able to answer my questions the other 
>day.  Did say they sold alot of BA/2 though.

The tape drive support is the only difference - otherwise they are essentially the 
same product.  Outside of the software, they are packaged differently, etc.

>
>How about upgrades?  If the personal edition does it for me now but later I 
>need more function, is there an upgrad discount?

Any registered BA/2 Personal Edition user can upgrade to the Professional Edition 
for $49 directly from CDS.  

Cheers,
Brad Benson
CDS, Inc.

PS - I see you're a Descent lover in Rochester!  I get down there quite a bit 
(I grew up there) and I think I'm pretty good at Descent - perhaps we should 
have a match sometime!
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