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Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???

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From: Brian Sturgill
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:27
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In article <64910@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>I'm curious, what do you mean, "Cut from the same cloth..."
>
>[...]
>
>Two things:
>
>1) NT will be running Windows applications (3.x type) *not* as
>native NT apps, but will do a similar "windows within NT" trick
>used by OS/2. That means there will be the same type of compatibility
>problems with Windows 3.1 executables running under NT as currently
>exist under OS/2

This is somewhat true... programs that go directly at hardware will have
problems... of course most Windows programs don't do that.
This will be more of a problem with DOS programs.  So far I've
not found one 16-bit Windows program that will not run under NT, but
then I've not tried anything wierd like Norton Backup that plays
games with the floppy disk drives to "lock" them.

>
>2) its a *WHOLE NEW OS*. There will be the same type of bugs in
>NT (and perhaps worse, since OS/2 has gone through several revisions)
>as now exist in OS/2
Strange... OS/2 was extremely buggy and unstable in it's early incarnations
(1.2 was awful!, and I'm told earlier versions were worse).
I've worked with NT enough already to know it's more stable that 1.2
was... I guess a miracle has occured!  Shall we take this a sign that
NT has been blessed? :-)

>
>Finally, it appears to me that the "Windows" in "Windows NT" is
>purely a marketing move; the only thing Windows NT has in common
>with Windows 3.1 is they both run on Intel chips and both are made
>by Microsoft.

Your last paragraph is simply wrong, Windows and Windows NT share
a huge number of common API calls.  More importantly they share
common API semantics... it's much easier to put Windows on Windows NT
that to do so under OS/2 as OS/2 has to have both its native API and
its Windows API-support, adding fatness.  Also you leave out the
Win32s stuff that allows Windows NT binaries to run under Windows
(without some of the features of course).  If you can run NT binaries
under Windows 3.1, then how can you say they "don't have anything in common".

>
>TomK@cup.portal.com
>Tom Krotchko

Brian
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C. Brian Sturgill                       *** OS/2 2.0 is for YOU! ***
University of Utah                  Microsoft needs some competition, but
Center for Software Science        -I- want to be one of the many using NT.
brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373           :-) :-) :-)
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From: brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:27:09 MDT
Message-ID: <1992Aug29.132709.5155@hellgate.utah.edu>
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