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"Hamid AzizPOP_Server=pop.freeuk.net" <hsaziz@freeuk.com> wrote in message news:<3U_p7.66356$TB2.5342724@nnrp4.clara.net>...
> "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> The fact is that the US Government, its secret agencies and its powerful
> Corporations are responsible for death, destruction, plundering,
> impoversiment, subversion, insurrections, destabilization of states and
> large scale suffering throughout the world. They have financed and supported
> terrorists, toppled Democratic Governments and established dictatorships and
> tyrants in many countries.

I think you exaggerate. There is plenty, *plenty* of suffering not
related to the U.S. And you ignore all the financial aid the U.S.
gives to many countries. The Marshall Plan. e.g. And read the quote
below.

Also, are you saying that Osama bin Laden actually cares about
anyone's suffering? I don't think so. And bin Laden is not exactly a
pauper.

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Quoted from http://www.objectiveamerican.com/lastthreedays.cfm

[Q:] Don't you think the U.S. kind of deserves what it got in the
WTC/Pentagon bombings? I mean, our treatment of Muslim nations has
been pretty bad, hasn't it? Shouldn't we have expected them to
eventually strike back?
&#8212;Sensitive in Seattle 

[A:] Well, first of all, no innocent people ever deserve to be
slaughtered. What kind of savage ethical code do you subscribe to,
anyway? Second, most Muslims the world over have nothing to do with
terrorism and most probably harbor no ill will toward the U.S. Some
do, sure. Not most. This is not an U.S. vs. the Muslims problem. This
is a good guys vs. the bad guys problem: U.S. and Muslim good guys vs.
terrorist bad guys (whether of the Muslim or other creed).

Third, I have no idea why you think we have treated the Muslim nations
badly. Was it bad treatment to spend billions rescuing Kuwait from
Saddam Hussein and rebuilding the hundreds of oil wells? Was it bad to
defend Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim states from Iraqi
predation&#8212;which we do to this very day? Was it anti-Muslim to
send billions in aid to Egypt and scores of millions to the
Palestinians? Was it anti-Muslim to help the Bosnian followers of
Mohammed beat back the ethnic-cleansing Yugoslav Reds? Was it bad
treatment to maintain good relations with Jordan for many years
running? Was it bad to protect the religious freedom of Muslims in
this nation and speak up for that freedom in the UN and other forums
worldwide? Was it anti-Muslim to help Uzbekistan and other ex-Soviet
Muslim states to build their economies and defend themselves against
Russian intimidation? The list goes on and on. No, we haven't saved
every oppressed Muslim everywhere. But who could? Give me a break. The
U.S. has done more for Muslims and their freedoms than any other major
nation has&#8212;and I don't care what the propaganda of a few,
unrepresentative, fanatical Muslims says. You should pay no more
attention to that than to the propaganda of renegade white supremacist
Christians in the U.S.

Disclaimer: JMHO
Alan E. Feldman
afeldman&gfigroup.com  (I am not speaking for gfigroup.)