🚀 go-pugleaf

hypothetically if  someone wanted to creat a counter effect like the WTC
bombing
-how would  some suicidal pilots flying bombs into the politicaly symbolic
center (MECCA)of the of the proponents of the WTC job effect the mindset of
the politics of islam .
Particularly if it was full of pilgrims.
Do you think there are non moslems out there crazy(devoted & heroic) enough
to do this.
How would it be if some ex marine with a few million dollars started
training and indoctrinating some impreshionable young boys? could it be
done?

"Israel Raj T" <israelrt@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> On 18 Sep 2001 00:11:43 -0700, Eusphoros@yahoo.com
> (Eusphoros@yahoo.com) wrote:
>
> >Your missing my point I think.  At the end of the 40 days of Bombing
> >the Mosques we would go in and get Osama anyway.  We would bring him
> >and his followers back to the US and put them on trial.
> >Then we would go back and provide the
> >resources to the countries to rebuild and reconsicrate their Mosques.
> >WE WOULD LOOK LIKE FREAKIN HEROS.
>
> No, you would look like corpses.
> 90 % would not care.
> However, enough would care and be driven to action that the WTC affair
> would look like a backyard bonfire.
>
> Two not totally irrelevant points:
> 1. According to Janes , the largest  number of suicide bombers has
> been from the Liberation Tamil Tigers Eelam and not from Middle
> Eastern groups:
>
> "The LTTE is fighting for an independent Tamil state in northeastern
> Sri Lanka. As the quality of targets chosen by the LTTE is high, it
> has a sophisticated training programme that lasts for about a year. As
> well as training the bomber, the LTTE research unit tests the effects
> of explosives on dogs and goats to ensure that the attack is
> successful. The list of Sri Lankan VIPs killed in suicide attacks
> includes one president, one presidential candidate, the State Minister
> of Defence, the Navy Chief and various area commanders."
>
> They have sent out 168 suicide bombers who successfully delivered
> their payloads.  Al Quaeda had sent out just 2 at the time that the
> article had been written.
>
> Now just imagine WTC multiplied by 168.
>
> 2.   Here is a link to an interesting article on Jihad Akbar ( The
> Greater Jihad ) and Jihad Asghar ( The Lesser Jihad ).
>
> Mainstream Muslim opinion is that the greater and more praiseworthy
> Jihad" is the war  against the desires and "Shaitaan" whilst Jihad
> Asghar is against the disbelievers on the battlefield. ie: The
> struggle against oneself is more praiseworthy than violent struggle
> against another.
>
> However, the article ( from a less representative , more  radical
> group  and not at all mainstream as the author himself points out )
> espouses the reverse view. Just imagine the consequences if this
> became the dominant mainstream view.
>
>
> See:
> Greater and lesser Jihad
> Compiled by Abu Fadl - Translated by Br. Khalid Saifullah
> http://www.islam.org.au/articles/26/jihad.htm
>
>
> Appendix A:
> From Janes:
> Suicide terrorism: a  global threat
>
http://www.janes.com/security/regional_security/news/usscole/jir001020_1_n.s
html
>
> NUMBER OF SUICIDE ATTACKS BETWEEN 1980-2000
>
> The  Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in Sri Lanka and in India
> 168
>
> Hizbullah and pro-Syrian groups in Lebanon, Kuwait and Argentina
> 52
>
> Hamas in Israel
> 22
>
> The Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK) in Turkey
> 15
>
> The Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Israel
> 8
>
> Al Quaida in East Africa
> 2
>
> The Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) in Croatia
> 1
>
> The  Islamic Group (IG) in Pakistan
> 1
>
> Barbar Khalsa International (BKI) in India
> 1
>
> The  Armed Islamic Group (GIA) in Algeria
> 1