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Article #15870Re: VAX emulators
From: Didier Morandi
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:04
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:04
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Tom Linden wrote: > HP's web site contains part numbers for transfering OS and > layered product license to CHARON-VAX. There has been some > discussion in the past about other emulators like simh and > eVAX. I don't think these are in a commercial form, but if > they were, and you wanted to use one would the same transfer > license as for CHARON-VAX apply? > > The HP web site doesn't make any mention of it. > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/sri-charon-vax-emulator.html All, I am not a CHARON-VAX reseller, so I can write this: To me, and to the majority of the VMS Community, there is a fondamental difference between CHARON-VAX, simh, eVAX, Acceler8 and others if you consider to use them in production (I'm not talking about hobbyism). CHARON-VAX is a product from Software Resources International, Geneva, aka SRI (www.softresint.com). SRI until 1998, was Digital. SRI was the Digital European Migration Engineering Group in Geneva. They produced a lot of software for the OpenVMS Engineering Group, among them the famous DECmigrate utility (aka VEST), allowing to translate binary VAX/VMS images to run on Alpha. To me, SRI still has today the OpenVMS Engineering spirit, knowledge and enthousiasm. All this made CHARON-VAX a real production solution for business critical applications. Reading the following text should probably be enough to demonstrate to some users (that I know) that CHARON-VAX *is* a professional product for professionals. A real emulator is *not* a quick n'dirty solution. (from http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/index.htm) "The CHARON-VAX family of products are VAX replacement systems, running as a software application on industry standard systems. They present to the VAX software the exact copy of a VAX hardware system, and will run unmodified VAX operating systems, layered software and applications. The compatibility is so exact that we run the original VAX hardware diagnostics during the design, and the CHARON products were certified using the original AXE hardware verification test suite of Digital Equipment Corporation's VAX engineering group." If one still wants to compare CHARON-VAX with other products, he or she sould know that today there is for example a CHARON-VAX platform supporting 800 users and running fine, in replacement of a VAX 7620 (http://www.softresint.com/news/800SimultUsers.htm) For your wide information. This is not an answer to the licensing issue, these are a few words on the truth. D.
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