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Article #2696Re: HP 5 Laserjet & JET DIRECT CARD & RAM
From: Nick de Smith
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:00
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In article <4Q85RLAMZi3yEwP5@amigo.demon.co.uk>, David Mahon <dmahon@amigo.demon.co.uk> writes >In article <853149508snz@longley.demon.co.uk>, David Longley ><David@longley.demon.co.uk> writes >>I have an HP Laserjet 5. I'm about to put a JET DIRECT card in. >>Card is a J2552 UTP/BNC (someone said I needed a HPJ2382A 10baseT) >>The network used twisted pair 10-base-T. >> >>Is there anything else to it apart form plugging in the card? Is >>the above the right card? Do I need to upgrade the RAM (it has >>4MB) now I am putting in a JET DIRECT card? If so, will normal, >>non-parity 72 pin SIMMs do? Do I have to add RAM in pairs? > >I believe it uses non-parity 72 pin SIMMs, like my HP Laserjet 6P. > >The RAM needs to have presence detect enabled. It needs to be 70ns. > >If you can't get such a chip cheaply, just buy a regular 72pin non- >parity SIMM without presence detect, and, using conductive paint and a >regular fine brush, connect the relevent jumpers yourself (you'll need >to paint between one and three connections, each about 2mm long - very >non-technical). > >I used a 4MB $15 SIMM in my HP 6P - works fine. HP charges about $150 >for the same thing. > >Information on presence detect can be had by using Alta vista, and >searching for "presence detect" (including quotes). The logic behind this is interesting - Presence Detect (PD) is based on 4 or 5 pins out of the 72 (5 if its ECC memory). This gives only 16 combinations of non-ecc memory, of which one is all pins open (NC). The all PDs NC combination is indistinguishable from not having any PD at all, and it just so happens that all PDs NC is a 2M x 32/36/40, 60ns option, thus in order to use a SIMM with PD, and to able to detect that PD is actually there, you cannot use 60ns memory. Amazing, huh? So, watch out - many companies (Simply are an example) only supply 60ns SIMMs, but mark them as 70 when people ask for 70ns SIMMs. Just look at the actual chips, and you will see the speed digit at the end of the chip part number (e.g. xxx-6 or xxxxJ6 etc.). The best page I know of about PD is from IBM, I don't have the URL handy but the page comes up under AltaVista as "72 Pin SIMM Characteristics" and it has a section on "Presence Detect Considerations". Yes, you can fake a non-PD SIMM if you are careful, but, David (Longley), I would think really carefully about doing it yourself, given your past experiences ;-) HTH, -- Nick de Smith
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1036bc,bb1e5b24df2e8933 X-Google-Attributes: gid1036bc,public X-Google-Thread: 104d8a,bb1e5b24df2e8933 X-Google-Attributes: gid104d8a,public From: Nick de Smith <nick@nick01.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: HP 5 Laserjet & JET DIRECT CARD & RAM Date: 1997/01/20 Message-ID: <QX3$LCAyd14yEwC1@nick01.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 211224239 distribution: world x-nntp-posting-host: nick01.demon.co.uk references: <853149508snz@longley.demon.co.uk> organization: HIS Technologies AG mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,demon.tech.pc