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According to Epsons site the 1280 should produce 11" x 14" borderless 
prints. Check your manual.

"Steve Dell" <stevedell@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> What is the absolute widest coverage attainable with an Epson 1280 using 
> 11 by 14 inch paper? The input paper is Red River Polar Satin and it is 
> exactly 11 by 14. When I print a photo, I have at least 1/2 inch all the 
> way around the coverage. I've played with the settings in Photoshop CS2 to 
> maximize it to no avail.
>
> I know that the 1280 can't do "borderless," but I am wondering if there's 
> a way to get less margin.
>
> TIA
>
> Steve Dell
> Tucson
> 

"Steve Dell" <stevedell@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> What is the absolute widest coverage attainable with an Epson 1280 using 
> 11 by 14 inch paper? The input paper is Red River Polar Satin and it is 
> exactly 11 by 14. When I print a photo, I have at least 1/2 inch all the 
> way around the coverage. I've played with the settings in Photoshop CS2 to 
> maximize it to no avail.
>
> I know that the 1280 can't do "borderless," but I am wondering if there's 
> a way to get less margin.
Well, you know something that isn't quite correct.  The 1280 can create 
borderless 11x14 prints with some papers.  I also have printed borderless 
prints with Polar Satin on numerous occasions.
What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will allow borderless 
prints (but definitely not plain paper), and tell the driver that is what 
kind of paper you are using.
Jim
>
> TIA
>
> Steve Dell
> Tucson
> 

"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will allow
borderless
> prints (but definitely not plain paper)

Anyone know why the type of paper matters?

Strikes me as an arbitrary limitation.

"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.net> wrote in message 
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> "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>> What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will
>> allow borderless prints (but definitely not plain paper)
>
> Anyone know why the type of paper matters?
> Strikes me as an arbitrary limitation.

Actually there is a good reason.  Plain paper will tend to curl and 
cockle if printed to the bottom.  This may become jammed in the output 
rollers, resulting in a difficult to remove accordion of paper.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

"Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote in message
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> "CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.net> wrote in message
> news:4465f54e$0$545$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> >
> > "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:3l39g.86131$dW3.20211@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >> What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will
> >> allow borderless prints (but definitely not plain paper)
> >
> > Anyone know why the type of paper matters?
> > Strikes me as an arbitrary limitation.
>
> Actually there is a good reason.  Plain paper will tend to curl and
> cockle if printed to the bottom.  This may become jammed in the output
> rollers, resulting in a difficult to remove accordion of paper.

Thanks.

I am using Red River Polar Satin. The instructions from Red River tell me to 
select Glossy Photo Paper. That doesn't seem to get it done.

Thanks for the dialog.

Steve
"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "Steve Dell" <stevedell@comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:n5adnea_UuDWM_nZRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>> What is the absolute widest coverage attainable with an Epson 1280 using 
>> 11 by 14 inch paper? The input paper is Red River Polar Satin and it is 
>> exactly 11 by 14. When I print a photo, I have at least 1/2 inch all the 
>> way around the coverage. I've played with the settings in Photoshop CS2 
>> to maximize it to no avail.
>>
>> I know that the 1280 can't do "borderless," but I am wondering if there's 
>> a way to get less margin.
> Well, you know something that isn't quite correct.  The 1280 can create 
> borderless 11x14 prints with some papers.  I also have printed borderless 
> prints with Polar Satin on numerous occasions.
> What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will allow 
> borderless prints (but definitely not plain paper), and tell the driver 
> that is what kind of paper you are using.
> Jim
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Steve Dell
>> Tucson
>>
>
> 

It isn't exactly arbitrary as it may appear.

When the head has to move beyond the edges of the paper, and spray ink 
on the edge of the paper, the paper needs to remain flat so it neither 
ripples from the ink or just warps due to it's storage qualities.

If the paper tends to ripple or warp, the head can catch on the paper 
edge, both damaging the print with black smears of excess ink on the 
head surface, and potentially damaging the head as well.  As a result 
only flat and relatively heavy stock that handles ink without rippling 
is "designed" within the driver to work in borderless mode.

Art


CWatters wrote:
> "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:3l39g.86131$dW3.20211@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> 
> 
>>What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will allow
> 
> borderless
> 
>>prints (but definitely not plain paper)
> 
> 
> Anyone know why the type of paper matters?
> 
> Strikes me as an arbitrary limitation.
> 
> 

"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp@mvps.org> wrote in message 
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> It isn't exactly arbitrary as it may appear.
>
> When the head has to move beyond the edges of the paper, and spray ink on 
> the edge of the paper, the paper needs to remain flat so it neither 
> ripples from the ink or just warps due to it's storage qualities.
>
> If the paper tends to ripple or warp, the head can catch on the paper 
> edge, both damaging the print with black smears of excess ink on the head 
> surface, and potentially damaging the head as well.  As a result only flat 
> and relatively heavy stock that handles ink without rippling is "designed" 
> within the driver to work in borderless mode.
>
> Art
And, quite a few types of paper are not very good at borderless.  The Epson 
driver is evidently written to exclude the types of Epson paper that may not 
make good borderless prints.  Epson's actions are not arbitrary at all.
Jim
>
>
> CWatters wrote:
>> "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:3l39g.86131$dW3.20211@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>
>>>What you do is find some kind of paper that the driver will allow
>>
>> borderless
>>
>>>prints (but definitely not plain paper)
>>
>>
>> Anyone know why the type of paper matters?
>>
>> Strikes me as an arbitrary limitation.
>>