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Re: Accounting on an AppleShare server?

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From: billkatt
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1989 00:26
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In article <1989Dec16.001228.14970@caen.engin.umich.edu> mac_support@caen.engin.umich.edu (billkatt) writes:
>In article <8912152130.AA15654@icarus.cns.syr.EDU> demarsee@ICARUS.CNS.SYR.EDU (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
>>>##Also, all of our applications have been "Doppleganged" (sp?) with
>>>##Doppelmaker, so the visible applications are not the actual ones --
>>>##the actual applications files are invisible -- this keeps the users
>>>##from copying the applications.
>>	
>>>This is not necessary.  There is an option in AppleShare 2.0 to set
>>>a copy-protect feature on within the Administration utility which prevents
>>>users from copying the applications.
>>
>> I would like to point out that there is a relatively trivial way
>> to circumvent AppleShare 2.0's copy-protection system.  Apple has been
>> informed of the problem, and hopefully is working on a solution (I 
>> have not heard of one yet).  I will say that both Doppleganger and
>> Multilauncher, while not alleviating the problem, do make it a bit
>> more difficult for a user to circumvent the copy-protection scheme.
>>
>> Due to the above-mentioned problem with AppleShare 2.0's copy-protection,
>> Noel, I DO NOT recommend that you drop Doppelganger.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Darryl Marsee <demarsee@icarus.cns.syr.edu>
>> Syracuse University Postmaster, TechReper, & MacHacker
>
>Just to throw my hat into the ring...  We here at the University of Michigan
>CAEN have developed a system similar to MultiLauncher, but it prevents
>copying of programs.  It involves modifying applications to check with the
>server before running.  It is very difficult to circumvent and will be
>neigh on impossible to circumvent version 2.0.  Our system is called
>LaunchBreak and is available in a very late beta right now.  (Unlike U of
>M Computing Center (makers of MultiLaunch), we admit we have bugs right now)
>
>How about a quick feature list, eh?
>
>1.  LaunchBreak works under MultiFinder.
>
>2.  LaunchBreak prevents copying of applications.  This is because the
>    copies on the server are modified to only work when the are in the
>    computing lab.  There are no copies which are simply hidden in folders.
>                             ^^^^ oops, messed up before
>
>3.  Applications modified with LaunchBreak may be copied down to the local
>    hard disk and run from there (or run from floppy if you want).  This
>    way, people may copy things like Microsoft Word to the hard drive and
>    run them from there.  When programs are run in this way, they act
>    exactly like they are run off the server, except faster.  The correct
>    count of copies is still kept and still deny usage when more than the
>    legal number are run.
>
>4.  LaunchBreak does not cause a flurry of packets every five minutes.
>    LaunchBreak uses an intelligent algorithim to keep accurate track of
>    how many copies of a program are in use.  Checks are only made when
>    necessary, not every five minutes.
>
>5.  LaunchBreak allows the user to modify the memory usage of a program
>    under MultiFinder.  This is not possible on MultiLaunch because the
>    program a person sees is only a doppleganger, and the person usually
>    doesn't have write permissions to that folder.  Under LaunchBreak you
>    just copy the program to the local hard disk and modify the memory usage
>    there.
>
>6.  LaunchBreak is remotely administratable.  You can download stats and
>    upload new licensing information remotely via the network without
>    bringing down the server.
>
>As another quick convincer...  There are roughly three computing groups
>at the U of M, CAEN, CC and ResComp.  CC runs MultiLaunch since they wrote
>it.  CAEN runs LaunchBreak because we wrote it and we are on a huge
>AppleTalk internet.  If we ran MultiLaunch, any knowledgeable person could
>mount our lab servers, look in the hidden folders and steal out software
>through the network without even entering a lab.  The third division, ResComp,
>took a look at ML and LB and choose LaunchBreak.  You decide for yourself.
>
>We are right now making LaunchBreak available on a sort-of beta system.  You
>can have it, and we would like you to share your problems with it with us.
>In addition, we will try to rectify any bugs you find for your sake and ours,
>but we cannot really add features into 1.0.  Any new feature requests would
>not be realized until version 2.0 (6-12 weeks until first beta).  The current
>policy on LaunchBreak is that it is free to educational institutions, but
>corporations, etc. must ante-up.  No fee has been set since we will not sell
>it as a finished product until 2.0.
>
>Inquiries may be sent to mac_support@caen.engin.umich.edu
>
>-Steve Bollinger (billkatt@mondo.engin.umich.edu)
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From: billkatt@mondo.engin.umich.edu (billkatt)
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Subject: Re: Accounting on an AppleShare server?
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