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Article #399Strange mail paths (was e-mail and System/370 Systems Person)
From: scw
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 1990 21:47
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 1990 21:47
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In article <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> John C Klensin <KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU> writes:
>Stephen C. Woods writes:
>> The problem is that the people who are most likley to have the skills
>>wanted here (System/370) [...] into a lot of trouble whose symptoms will be
>people being unable to reply to your mail, and is worth fixing, whatever
>that takes:
> > From: ucla-seas!scw%CS.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
>It *is* one of the natural consequences of trying to source-route; what
>probably happened here was that the bang-route "ucla-seas!scw@CS.UCLA.EDU"
>arrived at the BITNET->Internet gateway "mitvma.mit.edu", which "fixed" it
>into the form above, following the exact rules we have been discussing.
>The problem is that there is no established precedence rule about ! and %,
>so the above can be construed as (at least):
> (i) ucla-seas!scw at CS.UCLA.EDU via mitvma.mit.edu (probably what was
>intended) or as
> (ii) scw%CS.UCLA.EDU at ucla-seas via mitvma.mit.edu
Intrestingly enough I suspect that this UGLY (but workable) route was
probably machine generated at the gateway between the the Usenet
newsgroup 'comp.protocols.ibm' and the mail based equivalent. BTW I think
that there are 2 gateways between this newsgroup and the mailing list as
most messages appear to be duplicated in the newsgroup.
My outgoing mail is addressed from either scw@ollie.seas.ucla.edu or
scw@seas.ucla.edu (and very rarely scw@cs.ucla.edu) depending on where
I sent it from.
Here are the headers just as I send it.
<scw>
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Path: scw
From: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm
Subject: Strange mail paths (was e-mail and System/370 Systems Person)
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References: <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu>
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Reply-To: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods)
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Organization: UCLA School Of Engineering & Applied Science
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Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 BH;LA CA 90024; (213)-825-8614
UUCP: ...!{ibmsupt,hao!cepu}!ollie}!scw ARPA:scw@{Ollie.,}SEAS.UCLA.EDU
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arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!uci-ics!ucla-cs!ucla-seas!scwReferences:
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!usc!jarthur!uci-ics!ucla-cs!ucla-seas!scw From: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: Strange mail paths (was e-mail and System/370 Systems Person) Message-ID: <543@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 12 Apr 90 21:47:08 GMT References: <9004122105.AA19599@lilac.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@SEAS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: scw@ollie.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Stephen C. Woods) Organization: UCLA School Of Engineering & Applied Science Lines: 45