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Article #54NETBIOS from/to VM possible? PVM/PC?
From: Howard Gilbert
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:12
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:12
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>Has anyone seen any IBM NETBIOS implementations from VM or MVS? >Or know what "PVM/PC" is? >Or what the "PSCA device driver" for PVM is? >Does this product(?) offer NETBIOS PC to Mainframe communications? PVM/PC is an obscure PRPQ developed by IBM at Yorktown Research. It provides communication between CMS users and PC programs through the PVM program product. While it may at first look like "NETBIOS on the mainframe" there is a stronger argument that it is "IUCV on the PC." It does run on NETBIOS (the client PC communicates NETBIOS to the 8232 which then talks to PVM as a simulated CTCA). However, this requires a dedicated 8232 processor (ie one of the two AT boxes that make up an 8232 CU) since the PVM/PC code does not coexist with other (usually TCP/IP) uses of the same unit. However, one AT can run PVM/PC while the other supports TCP/IP, both within the same 8232 rack. The PCCA (sic) was the prototype of the 8232 control unit which in turn was the predecessor of the 3172 control unit. This device driver allows two VM mainframes to communicate PVM to PVM using a LAN. It also allows a CMS user to communicate with a PC using the PVM/PC API. While the function works, this is strategically a dry hole. In current usage one would either use TCP/IP or APPC (CPIC) for communications. At this late date I would have expected PVM/PC to have been withdrawn. Several IBM research projects at Yorktown and Raleigh have explored multi-transport arrangements. Although the primary thrust might be sockets-over-SNA and SNA-over-sockets, NETBIOS is ususally grandfathered in to such designs. No product has been produced. The simple fact is that there are relatively few PC based clients or servers which were written which depend on the NETBIOS program interface. Generally LAN Manager/LAN Server is the only important NETBIOS user, and its SMB control blocks could be (and are) just as easily transmitted over sockets, APPC, DECNET, Appletalk, or OSI.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!ucbvax!GILBERT.YCC.YALE.EDU!Howard From: Howard@GILBERT.YCC.YALE.EDU (Howard Gilbert) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: NETBIOS from/to VM possible? PVM/PC? Message-ID: <9207282035.AA0069@gilbert.ycc.yale.edu> Date: 28 Jul 92 18:12:00 GMT References: <9207281934.AA0036@gilbert.ycc.yale.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: BITNIC IBM-NETS List <IBM-NETS%BITNIC.BITNET@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU> Distribution: world Organization: The Internet Lines: 34