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Re: Boycott APPN; Endorse APPI

#744
From: Jim Moorhouse
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 15:37
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In article <1992Nov4.213241.25873@mmm.serc.3m.com> ccg@tcdsp1.mmm.com ("Charles Ganzhorn") writes:
> Both protocols are equally stupid when you consider the impact on the
> client workstation.  And in the case of APPI, gee, IGRP was a great hit:
> I can get it on  SO many routers.  (Yeah, right!)
> 
> Now the strategy that makes sense is to use OSF DCE or at least get IBM
> to firm up their CPI-C over TCP strategy and then use them to build your
> "blue" applications.

I agree whole heartedly, it's time for large vendors to stop talking about Open Systems and start implementing them.
OSF DCE is available now, the only question should be, how fast should legacy systems be migrated to the Open Systems  
environment.  All new applications and products should run in a native Open System environment.  I know this is an over  
simplification but it might start a good discussion.

Jim Moorhouse
Motorola
1299 E. Algonquin Rd.
Schaumburg, Ill.  60196
email jmoorhouse@mot.com
phone (708) 576-0489

These opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Motorola.  
> 
> APPN should never leave the computer room.  Why should I support dual
> stacks all over heck IF I get my blue connectivity over TCP?  And if I
> DO decide I have to have APPN to support my IBM applications, then why on
> earth should I use a tunneling technique rather than a native router? 
> There is a reason they are called multi-protocol routers.  Tunneling 
> causes a performance hit and is a kludge by definition.
> 
> Oh, and by the way, anyone still using IP only routers:  get in the real
> world.  Sometimes business reasons force the issue.  You use the
> protocol that makes sense in the homogeneous environment and TCP to bind
> it all together.  I no more expect to remove SNA from my mainframes as I
> would expect to remove DECnet from my VMS hosts.  They each provide
> functionality that is important to those environment.  But that doesn't
> mean I expect to implement DECnet, SNA, and TCP/IP on all my clients. 
> Let the HOSTS take the burden of running the dual stacks.  Use TCP only
> on the client as much as possible.
> 
> OK, enough spouting:  let the flames begin.
> 
> Charles.
> --
> Charles Ganzhorn			E/Mail:  ccganzhorn@mmm.com
> 3M IS&DP Network Services		AT&T:	 +1 612 736 7122
> St. Paul, MN				FAX:	 +1 612 736 7689
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