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Re: how can you keep on moving, unless you migrate too?

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From: Piercarlo Grandi
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 1990 21:46
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In article <YUKNGO.90Jul6013142@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
yukngo@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Cheung Yukngo) writes:
   In article <419@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers) writes:

      > 			 Anonymous FTAM is far less convenient
      > (it's currently strictly offline, spooled, batch) than FTP, but at
      > least the user is is the much more convenient "guest" rather than
      > "anonymous" :-).

		      ...     The problem with ftp (and rcp) is that the
      terminal (or window) is tied up for the duration, and I have to sit
      there and hold its hand to get it to work right.

   Well, I think we should differentiate ftp the protocol and ftp the
   program. You can implement a ftp client with interactive mode, batch
   mode, and half batch mode (you login interactively, find the file you
   want to transfer, and tell the ftp to get rid of the control terminal
   and do the transfering in the background without supervision).  If you
   like the challenge you can also design and implement a script language
   for it.


A little note: I think that a you will already find a decent
implementation for all this, as perl scripts, in any comp.lang.perl
archive.

On the other hand you can also have interactive OSI style file transfer,
as it has been pointed out (ISODE). In this country (UK) however it is
rarely available (the offline variety is prevalent, and apparently the
reason is a conscious decision to "minimize network traffic" resulting
from interactive use, as well as a feeling that interactive access is
less secure), and it is mainly used gatewayed to Internet FTP servers...
:-).

I still reckon that the move to TCP/IP tunnelled over X.25 public
networks (from local TCP/IP based lan to remote TCP/IP based LAN via an
OSI WAN) is still going on strongly in Europe, especially on the
Continent (but also in the UK), and in the academic community. Migration
*to* TCP/IP indeed...
--
Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi           | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth        | UUCP: ...!mcsun!ukc!aber-cs!pcg
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From: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
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Subject: Re: how can you keep on moving, unless you migrate too?
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