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2 total messages Started by Ralph Mackiewicz Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:20
OSI Failure? (MMS and TCP/IP)
#451
Author: Ralph Mackiewicz
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:20
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Reply to Don Provan regarding installed base of OSI:

You obviously missed the point.  I am not arguing in favor of OSI verus
other transport and network protocols on the basis of technical merit
nor am I claiming that OSI transport and network should be used because
of the installed base.  I merely stated a fact that most MMS implementation
s to date have used OSI transport and network.  If you are going to build
an MMS product that you intend to use to communicate with other implementat
ions it would be even more hilarious to implement it with TCP/IP since no
one else has.  Frankly, your response is why I spend time writing these 
messages.  You obviously don't care about the reality that if you are goint
to build an interoperable MMS product you better use OSI.  Who cares that
there will be no one to talk to.  Instead, perhaps you would use TCP/IP.
You would have a better technical solution....its just too bad that you
wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone else's MMS.  Now who's being
silly?

The point I keep trying to make, without much success, is that OSI is not
useless just because TCP/IP is better at some things.  There is some value
in OSI.  I have many customers using the technology (not vendors) who spend
money on OSI (or more precisely MMS) because it saves them money in 
integrating their plant floor devices and provides them a solution to 
their needs that no other networking technology can provide.

Ralph Mackiewicz
ics.ralph@ics.org or 2943439@mcimail.com
Re: OSI Failure? (MMS and TCP/IP)
#459
Author: don provan
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:56
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In article <8FXVqB2w164w@Control.Com> ics.ralph@control.com writes:
>Reply to Don Provan regarding installed base of OSI:
>
>You obviously missed the point.

No, sir, you've missed my point.  I wasn't even commenting on your
point; i don't even know what MMS is.  If you don't see why your
argument about installed base is ironic, even if you think the argument
itself has merit, then you've completely lost your sense of humor.

As it happens, i don't agree with your position, either.  It's not
that i think OSI is useless.  It's just that i don't think it will be
used.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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