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Started by Chris Kacoroski
Thu, 25 Oct 1990 13:59
Question on the OSI 7 layer model?
Author: Chris Kacoroski
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 1990 13:59
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 1990 13:59
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Hi,
I have two references on the OSI 7 layer model that disagree on what
the model does in the applications layer. The analogy is that of
sending a letter from the US to Germany. Reference 1 from 1987 states
that the OSI model will not only send the letter but will also
translate its contents from English to German. Reference 2 from 1989
states that the OSI model will only send the letter and not affect the
contents at all. The method in reference 2 is akin to the current
postal system. My question is: Which reference is correct?
Also, how does the MAP/TOP effort deal with the above problem. Does
MMS actually modify the contents of the letter or only guarantee the
arrival of the letter at a destination?
Thank you for you help
--
Chris "When we try to pick out anything by itself
'ski-' we find it connected to the entire universe"
Kacoroski John Muir
ski2@u.washington.edu
Re: Question on the OSI 7 layer model?
Author: Robert Kinne
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 1990 04:51
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 1990 04:51
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In article <9905@milton.u.washington.edu> ski2@milton.u.washington.edu (Chris Kacoroski) writes: >Hi, > >I have two references on the OSI 7 layer model that disagree on what >the model does in the applications layer. The analogy is that of >sending a letter from the US to Germany. Reference 1 from 1987 states >that the OSI model will not only send the letter but will also >translate its contents from English to German. Reference 2 from 1989 >states that the OSI model will only send the letter and not affect the >contents at all. The method in reference 2 is akin to the current >postal system. My question is: Which reference is correct? First, understand that the OSI model is exactly that; a model that breaks the communication process into seven defined layers, with layer interfaces and some concept of peer-to-peer level exchange. So the OSI model doesn't deal with the kind of issue you raise, but specifications of the layers and interfaces do. Second, the analogy of a 7-layer communication to a letter in the post is a loose one, and shouldn't be taken too literally. Third, the issue you raise is not an application layer question, but properly a presentation (layer 6) question. The purpose of the presentation layer (simplified, of course) is to place the communication into a form (code, language, syntax, whatever) that will be understood by the application layer. In the analogy of a letter (keeping the second point in mind), if you speak only German, the letter would be presented to you in German translation, since your presentation layer would 'know' that you don't understand English. > >Also, how does the MAP/TOP effort deal with the above problem. Does MAP/TOP hasn't evoloved to deal in any detail with presentation layer as yet.
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