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Started by Markus Kuhn
Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55
Re: ISO specs.
Author: Markus Kuhn
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55
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Is anyone forwarding the opinions expressed in this discussion to some higher layers within the International Organization for Standardization, to the people who make the decisions about prices and distribution conditions for ISO docs? I'm quite sure that the ISO president doesn't read this USENET group regularly, so it's time to write a few letters, isn't it? Perhaps ISO simply underestimates the interest for their documents outside the implementation departments of huge companies ... Net access to OSI standards isn't even the best technical solution. A CD rom with SGML files of all relevant standards and an official ISO-SGML -> Postscript converter running under MS-DOS for about $150 might perhaps be sold 10 time more often then all OSI standards together, because each company could affort buying a CD for each developper each year. ISO could make a lot of money and at the same time save a whole forest. What they are doing at ISO at the moment is just bad marketing! Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de | X.500 entry available -A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't- -even know existed can render your own computer unusable. (Leslie Lamport)-
Bet CCITT officials don't read this forum !
Author: Robert Lewis Glendenning
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:57
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:57
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I wouldn't expect OSI officials to be reading the forum. But somebody at CCITT should be, and they should be able to set up access to their summaries or working documents? However, the fact that none of the documents are available, and that tcp/ip is winning in the market, is a system state problem. It is compounded from economics (ISO's source of income) and the mental set of CCITT/ISO officials who still think in terms of paper, not e-mail or ftp. This kind of problem takes a lot more than letters to get changed. If anything is going to be done, IMHO, it will have to be private (I liked the suggestion of netters writing summaries) or via the working committees net-publishing working documents (I assume they have the power ??). I think that sharing test programs, etc. is also important to lowering the cost of implementations. Lew -- Lew Glendenning rlglende@netcom.com 408-245-7488 "Perspective is worth 80 IQ points." Nils Bohr (or somebody like that).
Re: ISO specs.
Author: David Gay
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:25
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:25
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In article <BvCBwH.99u@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) writes: Is anyone forwarding the opinions expressed in this discussion to some higher layers within the International Organization for Standardization, to the people who make the decisions about prices and distribution conditions for ISO docs? I'm quite sure that the ISO president doesn't read this USENET group regularly, so it's time to write a few letters, isn't it? Perhaps ISO simply underestimates the interest for their documents outside the implementation departments of huge companies ... In the latest ISO bulletin (September 1992), there is a note on: "Electronic Publishing and Distribution of Internation Standards Study launched" Here are some excerpts (reproduced without permission): ISO and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) announced that they are undertaking a joint study of technical, economic and market factors affecting distribution and use of standards in a variety of electronic media including optical discs, magentic tape and online networks. The availability of databases in electronic media enables users to realize numerous benifits. ISO and IEC want to ensure that users of their standards can take advantage of the improved productivity, comprehensive search capability and other benefits of electronic delivery. [...] Three categories of users will be studied: standardization specialists, libraries and tthose ultimately apply standards in industry, commerce and government. Results of the study are expected to be available in early 1993. [...] [...] [Mr. Anthony Raeburn, IEC General Secretary] 'We have a singular opportunity to make it easier to use standards, but we must understand what the users really need, and what they are willing to pay.' So ISO is still expecting to make money from standards ... -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de | X.500 entry available David Gay dgay@di.epfl.ch Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Laboratoire d'Informatique Technique
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