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3 total messages Started by Markus Kuhn Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55
Re: ISO specs.
#953
Author: Markus Kuhn
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55
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Is anyone forwarding the opinions expressed in this discussion to some
higher layers within the International Organization for Standardization,
to the people who make the decisions about prices and distribution
conditions for ISO docs? I'm quite sure that the ISO president doesn't
read this USENET group regularly, so it's time to write a few letters,
isn't it? Perhaps ISO simply underestimates the interest for their
documents outside the implementation departments of huge companies ...

Net access to OSI standards isn't even the best technical solution.
A CD rom with SGML files of all relevant standards and an official
ISO-SGML -> Postscript converter running under MS-DOS for about $150
might perhaps be sold 10 time more often then all OSI standards together,
because each company could affort buying a CD for each developper
each year. ISO could make a lot of money and at the same time save a
whole forest. What they are doing at ISO at the moment is just bad 
marketing!

Markus

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Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany
Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  |  X.500 entry available
-A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't-
-even know existed can render your own computer unusable. (Leslie Lamport)-
Bet CCITT officials don't read this forum !
#954
Author: Robert Lewis Glendenning
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:57
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I wouldn't expect OSI officials to be reading the forum. But somebody
at CCITT should be, and they should be able to set up access to their
summaries or working documents?

However, the fact that none of the documents are available, and that
tcp/ip is winning in the market, is a system state problem. It is
compounded from economics (ISO's source of income) and the mental
set of CCITT/ISO officials who still think in terms of paper, not
e-mail or ftp.

This kind of problem takes a lot more than letters to get changed.
If anything is going to be done, IMHO, it will have to be private
(I liked the suggestion of netters writing summaries) or via the
working committees net-publishing working documents (I assume they
have the power ??).

I think that sharing test programs, etc. is also important to lowering
the cost of implementations.

Lew
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Lew Glendenning		rlglende@netcom.com	408-245-7488

"Perspective is worth 80 IQ points."	Nils Bohr (or somebody like that).
Re: ISO specs.
#961
Author: David Gay
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:25
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In article <BvCBwH.99u@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) writes:
   Is anyone forwarding the opinions expressed in this discussion to some
   higher layers within the International Organization for Standardization,
   to the people who make the decisions about prices and distribution
   conditions for ISO docs? I'm quite sure that the ISO president doesn't
   read this USENET group regularly, so it's time to write a few letters,
   isn't it? Perhaps ISO simply underestimates the interest for their
   documents outside the implementation departments of huge companies ...

In the latest ISO bulletin (September 1992), there is a note on:

"Electronic Publishing and Distribution of Internation Standards Study
launched"

Here are some excerpts (reproduced without permission):

  ISO and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) announced
  that they are undertaking a joint study of technical, economic and
  market factors affecting distribution and use of standards in a variety
  of electronic media including optical discs, magentic tape and online
  networks. The availability of databases in electronic media enables
  users to realize numerous benifits. ISO and IEC want to ensure that
  users of their standards can take advantage of the improved productivity,
  comprehensive search capability and other benefits of electronic
  delivery.

  [...] Three categories of users will be studied: standardization
  specialists, libraries and tthose ultimately apply standards in
  industry, commerce and government.

  Results of the study are expected to be available in early 1993. [...]

  [...] [Mr. Anthony Raeburn, IEC General Secretary] 'We have a singular
  opportunity to make it easier to use standards, but we must understand
  what the users really need, and what they are willing to pay.'

So ISO is still expecting to make money from standards ...


   -- 
   Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany
   Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  |  X.500 entry available


David Gay
dgay@di.epfl.ch
Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Laboratoire d'Informatique Technique
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