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Started by "Benjamin I. Goldfarb"
Mon, 06 Jun 1988 14:01
Re: About Protocols for File Transfer
Author: "Benjamin I. Goldfarb"
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1988 14:01
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1988 14:01
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>There isn't much of an upper bound on the number of extra
>characters that might be inserted into the stream. Would you
>believe several hours' worth of "UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" at 1200
>bps? (I enhanced error recovery procedures after that one.)
>That's one modem's rendition of dial tone.
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OH YEAH? More likely the "UUUUUUUUUUU" was an erroneously
initiated test mode in the modem in question. Racal-Vadics are
notorious for this but the feature can be disabled by either
a dip switch or a strap option. A stream of ASCII U's makes for a
good digital test because U is 01010101, so a stream of them
creates a nice, big, fat square wave on a scope.
Sorry to be so picky, but I never saw a modem "render" a
dial tone.
Ben Goldfarb
University of Central Florida
goldfarb@ucf-cs.ucf.edu
{decvax,peora,uflorida,codas}!ucf-cs!goldfarb
Re: About Protocols for File Transfer
Author: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1988 12:49
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1988 12:49
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In article <8806061401.AA04016@hcx9.ucf.edu> goldfarb%hcx9@ucf.CSNET ("Benjamin I. Goldfarb") writes:
:>There isn't much of an upper bound on the number of extra
:>characters that might be inserted into the stream. Would you
:>believe several hours' worth of "UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" at 1200
:>bps? (I enhanced error recovery procedures after that one.)
:>That's one modem's rendition of dial tone.
: ------ --- ------- --------- -- ---- ----
:
:OH YEAH? More likely the "UUUUUUUUUUU" was an erroneously
:initiated test mode in the modem in question. Racal-Vadics are
:notorious for this but the feature can be disabled by either
:a dip switch or a strap option. A stream of ASCII U's makes for a
:good digital test because U is 01010101, so a stream of them
:creates a nice, big, fat square wave on a scope.
:
:Sorry to be so picky, but I never saw a modem "render" a
:dial tone.
:
: Ben Goldfarb
: University of Central Florida
: goldfarb@ucf-cs.ucf.edu
: {decvax,peora,uflorida,codas}!ucf-cs!goldfarb
Come to think of it, the dialtone rendition might not have
been a string of U's, typically seen when one of the loopback
modes is activated. However, the point still stands, the
modem would emit a stream of characters if a caller
disconnected in just the right way, without any dead time
between loss of carrier and the onset of dial tone. This
was on a stepper switch, the "precision" dial tone on DTMF
lines would be less likely to do this.
I didn't mention, however, several other ways that a large
number of characters may be "invented" by the modem or other
parts of the transmission medium, including buffer pointer
errors and scramblers losing sync.
So, yes, I have seen a modem "render" a dial tone. More to
the point, the observation of the effect of that and related
impairments remains valid in respect to protocol discussions.
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