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Re: James - any new thots on pppoE?

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From: James Carlson
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:01
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"Randy S." <rswitt@ufl.edu> writes:
> Damn, John, you put that really well!   Yes, from what I understand, when you
> scale up DHCP REALLY large you run into problems.  ARP broadcasts can become a
> significant portion of your bandwidth, and one rogue ARP storm can take everybody
> down.

Stop bridging among customer links and the problem goes away.  What
you're describing is a network design and implementation problem, not
a protocol problem or even a distinction between PPPoE and DHCP.

>  We had several instances of poorly designed 3rd party routers repeatedly
> sending out DHCP requests causing all sorts of havoc.  The installation of secure
> ARP helped fix much of this, but apparently DHCP doesn't work nearly as well on a
> HUGE flat LAN structure (which is what DSL looks like I believe), as it does on a
> more moderately sized one.

If you're using PPPoE on a bridged LAN, you're in deep trouble.  PPPoE
has no security it all -- read RFC 2516.  It's trivial to spoof
messages.

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From: James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com>
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Subject: Re: James - any new thots on pppoE?
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