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Article #320Re: James - any new thots on pppoE?
From: James Carlson
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:01
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:01
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"Randy S." <rswitt@ufl.edu> writes: > Damn, John, you put that really well! Yes, from what I understand, when you > scale up DHCP REALLY large you run into problems. ARP broadcasts can become a > significant portion of your bandwidth, and one rogue ARP storm can take everybody > down. Stop bridging among customer links and the problem goes away. What you're describing is a network design and implementation problem, not a protocol problem or even a distinction between PPPoE and DHCP. > We had several instances of poorly designed 3rd party routers repeatedly > sending out DHCP requests causing all sorts of havoc. The installation of secure > ARP helped fix much of this, but apparently DHCP doesn't work nearly as well on a > HUGE flat LAN structure (which is what DSL looks like I believe), as it does on a > more moderately sized one. If you're using PPPoE on a bridged LAN, you're in deep trouble. PPPoE has no security it all -- read RFC 2516. It's trivial to spoof messages. -- James Carlson, Internet Engineering <james.d.carlson@east.sun.com> SUN Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.234W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.497N Fax +1 781 442 1677 Second Edition now available - http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ppp
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1122a6,8bcec72c5c695208 X-Google-Attributes: gid1122a6,public X-Google-Thread: 103eaf,8bcec72c5c695208 X-Google-Attributes: gid103eaf,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-13 06:22:04 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!grolier!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!carbon.eu.sun.com!new-usenet.uk.sun.com!eastnews1.east.sun.com!not-for-mail From: James Carlson <james.d.carlson@sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,bellsouth.net.support.adsl Subject: Re: James - any new thots on pppoE? Date: 13 Feb 2001 09:01:48 -0500 Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. - BDC Lines: 25 Message-ID: <xoavn1bqfzqr.fsf@sun.com> References: <3A87F5AB.7592D38E@snt.bst.bls.com> <xoav8znc3q4u.fsf@sun.com> <3A89379A.8B36DAED@snt.bst.bls.com> <3A893B93.17F31E44@ufl.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phorcys.east.sun.com X-Home-Page: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7