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In <1992Sep9.165649.21551@desktalk.desktalk.com> ty@desktalk.com writes:

> Leigh,
> 
> CMIP (CMOT on IP) is well described in the appropriate ISO documents and RFCs which
> can be found on the NIC (anonymous FTP to nic.ddn.mil).  Although it may be considered
> a "beefed up" variation of SNMP, it has not been widly implemented, and has in fact
> been denounced by Internet-ers as trying to accomplish too much.  
> 
> My recommendation is to look more thuroughly at SMP (Marshall Rose's and Jeff Case's
> upgrade to SNMP) which solves a lot of SNMP's problems, like bulk data transfers and
> security issues.  It still uses ASN.1 (yuk!), as do CMOT and CMIP.
> 
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Sorry, but CMIP is _not_ CMOT over IP.

CMIP reads Common Management Information Protocol and is the OSI application
layer service element for network management communication. Service (CMIS) 
and protocol (CMIP) have been defined in ISO 9595 and ISO 9596 in 1991. 
Meanwhile, you can also obtain the same text from CCITT as X.710 and X.711.

CMIS/P is only part of the OSI network management standards. The main concepts
are defined in 
  ISO 7498-4 'OSI Basic Reference Model - Management Framework'
  ISO 10040 ' OSI Systems Management Overview'.

Management information is described in ISO 10165 'Structure of Management
Information', 
  Part 1: 'Management Information Model'
  Part 2: 'Definition of Management Information'
  Part 4: 'Guidelines for the Definition of Managed Objects.'

More than a dozen Systems Management Functions can be found in parts of the
ISO 10164-x standard.

These ISO standards will also be published as CCITT recommendations of the
X.700 series; some of them are already available.

Further, layer specific information is proposed for layers 2, 3, and 4 in
ISO CD 10742, ISO DIS 10733, and ISO DIS 10737, respectively.

No, I don't know a book that gives a good introduction to OSI management.
A concise description of the OSI management information model is given in

  Embry, J., P. Manson, and D. Milham, "Interoperable Network Management: 
  OSI/NM Forum Architecture and Concepts", published in the proceedings of
  the 'International Symposium on Integrated Network Management, II', 
  Washington, D.C., 1991.

CMOT is CMIP over TCP/IP and thus it is an alternative to SNMP for managing 
TCP/IP based networks.

I hope this helps reducing confusion about CMIP and CMOT ...

Georg

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