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In article <3156@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.082348.1@research.ptt.nl> mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
>>Since when is SNMP more secure than CMIP? SNMP is not secure at 
>>all. So current SNMP based NMSs can only get information from an 
>>agent. Setting variables is not implemented and therefore SNMP 
>>based NMSs can only be used to monitor your network. Controlling 
>>your network is out of the question (unless you want every geek 
>>to control your network as well).
> 
> You aren't well informed.  SNMP has security protocols in published RFCs.
> I personally have been using SNMP with those security protocols for
> about 6 months.  Others have been using them for longer than that.

That might be true it is about 10 months ago that I worked with 
SNMP and then all vendors stated that there were no security 
protocols and they would not implement setting of variables.

> 
> Setting of variables IS implemented (again, you don't know what you
> are talking about) in SNMP -- one can monitor and manage in a secure
> fashion without any risk of someone else controlling your network.

See above.

> Do try harder to be fully informed.
> 
>>I can hardly believe that the SNMP MIB for SONET has the same 
>>functionality as the CMIP MIB for SONET (or better for SDH).
> 
> Did you bother to LOOK at them ?  Obviously not.

I did, look at CCITT recommendation G.774 and show me how you 
would put the same functionality in an SNMP MIB without getting a 
totally confusing MIB.

> You just ranted in an uninformed manner.  Had you looked and been
> honest, you wouldn't have said the above.

I think I would and I am certainly not uninformed. Have you ever 
bothered looking at CMIS/CMIP.

>>While I am absolutely certain that there is a place for SNMP I am 
>>also absolutely certain that it is more appropriate to manage SS7 
>>with CMIS/CMIP just because the MIB is better structured and has 
>>more functionality.
> 
> Not true.  As I said before, you just aren't informed about what you
> are talking about.  Into MY kill file now...

As I said before I think I am.

Mike