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3 total messages Started by Bob Engley Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:29
SNMP UNIX resource management
#208
Author: Bob Engley
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:29
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We would like to monitor our servers to get an idea
of the usage, to answer the inevitable questions:
Who is using then? Are they reaching capacity etc?

Is SNMP the way to do resource monitoring? Just UNIX for now!
Has anyone run across an SNMP MIB that defines
system resources - things like CPU usage, Disk utilization etc. 
How about user resource utilization?
Of course the next question is: What about an agent that
works with the "resource" MIB?

Any info/thoughts wold be welcome!
in haste,
  Bob
Re: SNMP UNIX resource management
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Author: Steven L. Waldbusser
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:20
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.protocols.snmp: 11-Dec-92 SNMP UNIX resource
management Bob Engley@quick.ucs.ual (506)

> Is SNMP the way to do resource monitoring? Just UNIX for now!
> Has anyone run across an SNMP MIB that defines
> system resources - things like CPU usage, Disk utilization etc. 
> How about user resource utilization?

The IETF Host Resources MIB Working Group is in the final stages of
writing such a MIB that defines system independent objects for hosts. 
In particular, it will handle the things you mentioned.  The Internet
Draft is available through anonyous FTP to nnsc.nsf.net in the directory
internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hostmib-resources-00.txt.  The latest working
draft is on lancaster.andrew.cmu.edu in pub/hostmib/hostmib.txt.

Excerpts from netnews.comp.protocols.snmp: 11-Dec-92 SNMP UNIX resource
management Bob Engley@quick.ucs.ual (506)

> Of course the next question is: What about an agent that
> works with the "resource" MIB?

There are none yet that I know about.  I expect that there will be
commercial products for the PC, Mac, and Unix that implement this MIB. 
Since the MIB is pretty simple, I would also expect that a freely
available Unix agent would come along as well.

Steve
Re: SNMP UNIX resource management
#220
Author: Andrew Schonberger
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:27
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In article <1992Dec11.232959.18819@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
Bob Engley <Bob_Engley@quick.ucs.ualberta.ca> writes:

    >We would like to monitor our servers to get an idea
    >of the usage, to answer the inevitable questions:
    >Who is using then? Are they reaching capacity etc?

    >Is SNMP the way to do resource monitoring? Just UNIX for now!
    >Has anyone run across an SNMP MIB that defines
    >system resources - things like CPU usage, Disk utilization etc. 
    >How about user resource utilization?
    >Of course the next question is: What about an agent that
    >works with the "resource" MIB?

Let's go back to the basics: I recall the first RFCs about SNMP and its
predecesors. At that time, The Internet, with it's zillions of hosts, 
routes and IP interfaces was becoming unmanageable. The original motivation
for SNMP was network management, and specifically the management of TCP/IP
specific resources of a huge network. I'm not suggesting SNMP is forever 
confined to TCP/IP resources. Some manufacturers are defining MIBS for 
things which are already far from the original TCP/IP kind of resources. 

The problem comes when an administrator of a medium-sized Unix network
(20 hosts) is told that "SNMP is the standard for Unix management". Once 
the LAN is installed, hardware malfunctions are not so frequent. Much 
more often, the administrator is being faced with problems which are
not related to TCP/IP resources:
    - new users have to be added, others have to be removed.
        In a commercial Unix environment, there is typically some data
        base application, which uses its own UserIds.
    - disks or file systems run out of space.
    - some CPUs get overloaded, while others are idle. 

Perhaps I shouldn't explain here the problem domain of System Management.
We know it is more than pure Network Management. 

I recall I've seen a product named DDS-Patrol some time ago. It was doing
resource monitoring in a moderately sized Unix LAN. I think the basic 
concept was to periodically fork off things like 'ps' or 'df', although 
most of the data was obtained straight from /dev/kmem. Somehow, it was 
also polling SNMP resources, and it could be customized to execute any 
other resource-monitoring commands.

On the LAN, there were DDS-Patrol agents on each host to be managed. 
On a central monitor, a Motif window came up, showing disks, CPUs and 
other such 'things'. I remember drilling down to increasingly lower levels
of granularity, and I could define threshould values for parameters. When a 
disk got full, an icon turned red, and there was even a synthetized 
voice announcement. 

The people who showed me this is are at <mpicard@au.oracle.com>. If you are 
interested , I could look up their address or phone in US (it's not 
Oracle Corporation).

        Andrew
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