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Started by Andrew Hancock
Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:00
TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: Andrew Hancock
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:00
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I've curently installed an Internet Gateway using Windows '95 on a Novell Netware (Netx, 3.12). We are currently using Windows '95 Dial Up Networking to receive mail from our Internet Service Provider (every hour). via TCP/IP other workstations running Windows '95 can successfully log into the POP3 gateway on this server and download their mail. My problem is with the older Windows 3.1 workstations. I have successfully installed Lan Workplace 4.x TCP/IP, all workstations can ping the internet mail server successsfully. I have installed D-Link De220 packet drivers, along with tcpip.exe, and The virtual Winpkt.com packet driver. In windows I have installed the Winsock.dll stack and configured this correctly. All is working well, all Windows 3.1 workstations can log into the mail server via Eudora Pro and receive the mail from the Mail server. My problem is that when a Windows workstation using TCP/IP, If I try to run another application the Workstation crashes, I suspect the Winpkt/dos packet driver ! Is there better way of running TCP/IP protocol and Winsock in Windows 3.1? (I know that upgrading to WFW3.11 or Win95 would solve the problem but this is long term solution) Andy
Re: TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: James Moutsos
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 00:00
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>On Fri, 15 Dec 1995 22:48:26 GMT, Andy@pcmartme.demon.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) wrote: >>I've curently installed an Internet Gateway using Windows '95 on a >>Novell Netware (Netx, 3.12). We are currently using Windows '95 Dial >>Up Networking to receive mail from our Internet Service Provider >>(every hour). via TCP/IP other workstations running Windows '95 can >>successfully log into the POP3 gateway on this server and download >>their mail. >> >>My problem is with the older Windows 3.1 workstations. I have >>successfully installed Lan Workplace 4.x TCP/IP, all workstations can >>ping the internet mail server successsfully. >> >>I have installed D-Link De220 packet drivers, along with tcpip.exe, >>and The virtual Winpkt.com packet driver. >> >>In windows I have installed the Winsock.dll stack and configured this >>correctly. >> >>All is working well, all Windows 3.1 workstations can log into the >>mail server via Eudora Pro and receive the mail from the Mail server. >> >>My problem is that when a Windows workstation using TCP/IP, If I try >>to run another application the Workstation crashes, I suspect the >>Winpkt/dos packet driver ! >> >>Is there better way of running TCP/IP protocol and Winsock in Windows >>3.1? >> >>(I know that upgrading to WFW3.11 or Win95 would solve the problem but >>this is long term solution) >> >>Andy >> >You can use FTP Software's OnNet v2.0 Trumpet Winsock ver 2.X works great.
Re: TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: Bruce Taylor
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <819067707.22346@pcmartme.demon.co.uk> Andy@pcmartme.demon.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) writes: > via TCP/IP other workstations running Windows '95 can >successfully log into the POP3 gateway on this server and download >their mail. > >My problem is with the older Windows 3.1 workstations. I have >successfully installed Lan Workplace 4.x TCP/IP, all workstations can >ping the internet mail server successsfully. > >I have installed D-Link De220 packet drivers, along with tcpip.exe, >and The virtual Winpkt.com packet driver. > >In windows I have installed the Winsock.dll stack and configured this >correctly. > >All is working well, all Windows 3.1 workstations can log into the >mail server via Eudora Pro and receive the mail from the Mail server. > >My problem is that when a Windows workstation using TCP/IP, If I try >to run another application the Workstation crashes, I suspect the >Winpkt/dos packet driver ! > >Is there better way of running TCP/IP protocol and Winsock in Windows >3.1? For our Windows 3.1 and WfWg 3.11 clients we load the following components from startnet.bat: lsl 3c5x9.com ; the ODI MLID driver for our 3c509 Ethernet adapters. ipxodi odipkt vlm This gives us NetWare's DOS requestor by means of the VLMs over ipxodi. Odipkt provides a packet driver interface that our DOS TCP/IP applications can use. (We run NCSA telnet from the DOS prompt, outside of Windows, for example.) All applications running in Windows or WfWg work toward Novell's winsock.dll, which requires Novell's TCPIP.EXE stack. It is not possible to use Novell's TCP/IP stack (with or without winsock) at the same time the packet driver interface is active - the client hangs. We solve this problem by renaming win.com to win-hf.com. We start Windows by means of win.bat, which loads tcpip.exe, starts win-hf.com, and on exit from Windows, unloads tcpip.exe by means of its /u switch. Bruce Bruce Taylor Bruce.Taylor@hedb.uib.no Det historisk-filosofiske fakultets edb-seksjon voice: +47.55.212348 Universitetet i Bergen, Norway fax: +47.55.231897
Re: TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: William Wang
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
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On Fri, 15 Dec 1995 22:48:26 GMT, Andy@pcmartme.demon.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) wrote: >I've curently installed an Internet Gateway using Windows '95 on a >Novell Netware (Netx, 3.12). We are currently using Windows '95 Dial >Up Networking to receive mail from our Internet Service Provider >(every hour). via TCP/IP other workstations running Windows '95 can >successfully log into the POP3 gateway on this server and download >their mail. > >My problem is with the older Windows 3.1 workstations. I have >successfully installed Lan Workplace 4.x TCP/IP, all workstations can >ping the internet mail server successsfully. > >I have installed D-Link De220 packet drivers, along with tcpip.exe, >and The virtual Winpkt.com packet driver. > >In windows I have installed the Winsock.dll stack and configured this >correctly. > >All is working well, all Windows 3.1 workstations can log into the >mail server via Eudora Pro and receive the mail from the Mail server. > >My problem is that when a Windows workstation using TCP/IP, If I try >to run another application the Workstation crashes, I suspect the >Winpkt/dos packet driver ! > >Is there better way of running TCP/IP protocol and Winsock in Windows >3.1? > >(I know that upgrading to WFW3.11 or Win95 would solve the problem but >this is long term solution) > >Andy > You can use FTP Software's OnNet v2.0
Re: TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: John P. Morphet
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <819067707.22346@pcmartme.demon.co.uk>, Andy@pcmartme.demon.co.uk�
says...
>
>I've curently installed an Internet Gateway using Windows '95 on a
>Novell Netware (Netx, 3.12). We are currently using Windows '95 Dial
>Up Networking to receive mail from our Internet Service Provider
>(every hour). via TCP/IP other workstations running Windows '95 can
>successfully log into the POP3 gateway on this server and download
>their mail.
It's not clear what you are doing here. You can't use a Windows 95 machine as a
gateway because it will not route packets. However, NT may be used. You could
however run an SMTP and POP3 server on a Windows 95 machine, have it collect
the mail from your ISP, then allow everyone to grab their mail on the local
net. This seems like what you are trying to do.
>I have installed D-Link De220 packet drivers, along with tcpip.exe,
>and The virtual Winpkt.com packet driver.
"TCPIP.EXE" is not part of trumpet winsock and "Winpkt.com" is part of trumpet
winsock. You can't mix these components. Packet drivers are generic and you
should be able to use anyone written for you NICs. You can't mix components of
a TCP/IP stack. Stick with one brand. Use all trunpet winsock or all FTP
software's product. Don't mix components.
>
>In windows I have installed the Winsock.dll stack and configured this
>correctly.
Is it the one that came with your TCP/IP stack? Again, don't mix and match
here.
>
>All is working well, all Windows 3.1 workstations can log into the
>mail server via Eudora Pro and receive the mail from the Mail server.
>
>My problem is that when a Windows workstation using TCP/IP, If I try
>to run another application the Workstation crashes, I suspect the
>Winpkt/dos packet driver !
Your probably correct. Winpkt is the virtual packet driver wrapper to allow you
to run enhanced mode (more than one program), but it should onlt be used with
trumpet winsock.
>
>Is there better way of running TCP/IP protocol and Winsock in Windows
>3.1?
Yes, stick with all the components of one TCP/IP stack. Trunpet Winsock is
pretty good. If you are also try to talk to a Novell machine with your windows
machines, I suggest you go the ODIPKT way. This is a special driver designed to
map the ipx/odi APIs to TCP/IP APIs. I go into great detail of how to do this
in my book.
_________________________________________________________________________
John P. Morphet jmorphet@asys.com
Author of "Windows on the Internet -- The Complete Toolchest on CD-ROM"
McGraw-Hill ISBN: 0-07-912173-X
http://www.mcgraw-hill.com/legal-medical-pros/pbg/computin/computin.htm
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Re: TCP/IP, WINSOCK, on Novell Netware LAN with Windows 3.1
Author: Richard Clayton
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <4b4g5n$9b3@natasha.rmii.com>, "John P. Morphet"
<jmorphet@asys.com> writes
[Note that this thread is in a remarkable array of newsgroups]
>"TCPIP.EXE" is not part of trumpet winsock and "Winpkt.com" is part of trumpet
>winsock.
winpkt.com is a generic "shim" which switches virtual machines so that a
packet driver will invoke callback routines correctly. Trumpet insists
that it is present if you use a packet driver - hence it is included
with the distribution. It is not, however, Trumpet specific; there are
in principle other programs which could use it.
--
richard Richard Clayton T U R N P I K E Ltd
tel: +44 1306 747747
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