Article View: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Article #15422Re: First proposal - all who need space get it
From: Karl Denninger
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 00:00
94 lines
5330 bytes
5330 bytes
In article <6hd67s$6s2$1@news.ncal.verio.com>, Roger Marquis <not-for-mail@roble.com> wrote: >In comp.protocols.tcp-ip paul@No-UCE.anastrophe.com wrote: >>Your parti pris is only thinly disguised by the ad hominem. For want of a >>cogent argument... > >If we could get this thread off of the ad hominem track for just a >minute and actually read the original posts you'll see there are some >critical problems being addressed, including: > > * Network Solutions split off ARIN without halving their fee, > > * ARIN has created a fee structure that bears no relationship to the > cost of providing reverse DNS resolution and netblock registration, > > * The ARIN fees heavily discriminates against smaller ISPs, startups > and businesses that do not require a /19, > > * ARIN has not adequately solicited input from the Internet community > as was standard (RFC) procedure before Network Solutions took > over the Internic, > > * The corporate structure of ARIN, like Network Solutions, gives > the appearance of for-profit intent, > > * ARIN has not been consistent in the application of its own > requirements for netblock allocation, > > * ARIN has not made any visible effort to reclaim the numerous > /8 and /16 netblocks that are currently underutilized and in many > cases completely unused, > > * ARIN has not addressed the problems with netblock hoarding and > resale that are beginning to impact Internet based businesses and > Internet commerce (with companies like Whole Earth Networks charging > $1,000 per year for a class C, regardless of bandwidth), > > * ARIN controls a valuable public resource with no oversight or > regulation. > >If those are not enough reasons to justify Karl Denninger's proposal I >don't know what might be. > >Roger Marquis There is a meeting of the ARIN Advisory Council being scheduled about two months from now. This is a reasonable forward time span (its unreasonable and EXPENSIVE to schedule tighter in than this, and I absolutely do NOT want to give Kim Hubbard and other BoT members who are compensated and reimbursed for these things an excuse to fly on ANYTHING other than excursion airfares in the coach cabin.) Prior to that time I expect that the AC will have debated the points I have raised (the two primary proposals I have put forward) and come to some kind of consensus. If not, then we will attempt to reach consensus during that meeting. It is solidly my intent that following that meeting hard, formal recommendations will be issued to the BoT and an immediate and constructive change will come from them. If the BoT refuses to accept those recommendations, or if the AC fragments to the point that nothing productive comes out of the June meeting, then I will be soliciting members of ARIN to formally depose the board and replace its entire complement with a representative set of people from the community. It is my intent as an AC member to fix the problems. Alternatively, if I cannot convince the other AC members and the Board to fix the problems, it is my intent to force open the floodgates of competitive commerce in the IP address business (consider the number of organizations which hold /8s, how many of those need any significnat part of the /8 - zero, and how much they could make leasing or selling some of that space - then tell me why ANY public company with a fiduciary duty to stockholders wouldn't do precisely this if the current situation continues?) The "invisible hand" of competition will do the rest of the job; ARIN will be unable to sustain its present pricing and policies if even *one* /8 holder defects. Either way, ARIN will come around. Either because the BoT and AC do the right thing, or because with the pressures of competitive allocation authorities within ARIN's service area they simply will have no choice if ARIN wants to survive at all. I was appointed to the AC and approved by the BoT. Some of the board probably regrets that appointment now, but I'm there for three years and I intend to do my damndest to protect and advance the interests of the Internet's *USERS*. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly / All Lines K56Flex/DOV | NEW! Corporate ISDN Prices dropped by up to 50%! Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<6hd86k$5ks$1@Mars.mcs.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mailReferences:
<6h8tm7$i4g$2@news.ncal.verio.com> <6ha824$ihl$1@ns1.vrx.net> <6hb2cn$aa0$1@news.ncal.verio.com> <6hd67s$6s2$1@news.ncal.verio.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe4ef,2dcc4ea5a4214378 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe4ef,public X-Google-Thread: f9325,2dcc4ea5a4214378 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9325,public X-Google-Thread: fa874,2dcc4ea5a4214378 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa874,public From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: First proposal - all who need space get it Date: 1998/04/19 Message-ID: <6hd86k$5ks$1@Mars.mcs.net> X-Deja-AN: 345671437 References: <6h8tm7$i4g$2@news.ncal.verio.com> <6ha824$ihl$1@ns1.vrx.net> <6hb2cn$aa0$1@news.ncal.verio.com> <6hd67s$6s2$1@news.ncal.verio.com> Distribution: inet Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains,ba.internet