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Article #15436Shared IP's via HTTP_HOST (new standard?)
From: kitchin
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:00
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For virtual domain web hosting my ISP just switched over to shared IP's via HTTP_HOST (see below if you don't know what this is). I complained, since I have only seen this used on very low cost providers, like icom.com and webcom.com. But my ISP claims the following: > In accordance with InterNIC, ARIN, MCI and UUnet policies, we have > eliminated the use of IP's for virtual web sites permanently. > > Browsers supporting only HTTPD v1.0 will indeed see the wrong web > site, for the reason you cited above. Updated browsers have been > available for far more than one year supporting HTTP_HOST. > > The use of IP's for virtual web sites is very heavily discouraged > for many reasons, and would inhibit our growth and our customers in > far more drastic ways than having to use a current browser. However it's my understanding that the IP situation is going to be solved by adding more digits eeeeventuallly. I have not heard of these "policies" at ARIN or INTERNIC, although I understand the commercial backbones might encourage IP sharing, and least for their more economical customers! I see from the ARIN template (http://www.arin.net/templates/isptemplate.txt) that virtual domain IP's are considered "reserved" rather than "assigned," but does this effect the utilization rate??? Is my ISP feeding me a load of nonsense? ------- FYI: Shared IP's via HTTP_HOST: See http://www.cyberhost.net, which links to all the web pages sharing this IP, such as http://www.bcr-net.com. If you type http://www.bcr-net.com into a primtive browser, like Netscape 1 or an old Mosaic, you get the http://www.cyberhost.net page and have to click on the page you want. But if you use a modern browser then http://www.bcr-net.com goes where it should. (This is icom.com's way of handling old browsers; webcom.com uses a slightly different scheme. Both are based on the HTTP_HOST variable, but webcom uses a HTTP_REFERER trick for all but the most naive browser.) Another problem: I suspect many search engine spiders do not set HTTP_HOST. I know it used to impossible to submit to Link Exchange a banner sitting on a shared IP virtual host, but they fixed that. C.Kitchin email: kitchin__no@spp*am.comclin.neyt [The ISP I'm complaining about is in neither of the email addresses here.] -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9325,d6218de2e9650c0f,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf9325,public X-Google-Thread: fa874,d6218de2e9650c0f,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfa874,public From: kitchin@intersurf.com Subject: Shared IP's via HTTP_HOST (new standard?) Date: 1998/03/23 Message-ID: <6f6aup$i1t$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-Deja-AN: 336884630 X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.02 [en] (Win95; I) Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Mar 23 18:53:32 1998 GMT Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,ba.internet