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Article #7990Re: Moving from coax to 10BaseT
From: Tom Limoncelli
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:07
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:07
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In <1993Jan24.231044.16138@xenitec.on.ca> merce@xenitec.on.ca (Jim Mercer) writes: >having UTP throughout the building now allows us to wire 10baseT, Starlan1, >tokenring, RS232 and other stuffwith the same wire. life is much better. This the the crux of the matter. Making life easier. 10baseT does have a lot of advantages in that regard. My favorite is the ability to run "n" UTP lines to each office and you can use them for "n" of the following: phone, 10baseT, appletalk, serial, second phone, serial line, [I'm sure others can add to this list.] However, converting an old office building that's already wired for one kind of networking to any other is a whole 'nother matter. No 2-page article in a throw-away networking magazine can tell you what's right for you. I would never convert an entire building from one networking technology to another without a LOT of thought about what my needs might be in the next i years (where i is different depending on your corporate culture). I think the real question is "Why are industry pundits starting to recommend 10baseT all over the place?" I think the answer to that is simple: They know that all the new machines coming out have it built in. Look at the back of all the new SparcLX/SparcClassic, the DEC Alpha, HP, etc.[*] and guess what's there. Also, they know that by the time a person needs to convert from 10baseT to the next level of networking [CDDI?] someone will have developed a way to run it over UTP. (or so we all hope :-) ). I laugh in December when every industry pundit writes a column of "predictions for next year". Most of what they list are things that they've been told under non-disclosure but they don't name the company. For example, "This will be the year for ISDN" was a good prediction for 1993 since anyone with a couple non-disclosure agreements could tell you that EVERY new machine has ISDN hardware because EVERY computer company thinks that Mitch's EFF is going to get congress to pass their ISDN package. Nostradamus? Bah. He just had the right connections. Tom Footnote: [*] I would have listed the Sparc 10 but that would be unrealistic since everyone knows that they aren't really shipping. Oh sure, Sun shipped a few so their press-releases can say that they're shipping, but talk to anyone that has ordered one and you'll find that they've been told "next week" for the last 3 months. I doubt they'll ship in quantity for another year and by then Sun should have developed a chip who's design wasn't DOA. ...but that's just my opinion. If you want to have fun with a Sun salesthing: Next time they tell you "next week" bet them dinner that it won't arrive in the next 7 days. -- Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.uucp (home) -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) Moderator of ne-social-motss and the Drew University Alumni/ae mailing lists. "There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America." --Bill Clinton's inaugural address, 1/20/93
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!news.mentorg.com!sdl!plts!not-for-mail From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Moving from coax to 10BaseT Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:07:09 -0500 Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA Lines: 54 Message-ID: <1k2kedINNdm3@plts.uucp> References: <19971@mindlink.bc.ca> <1993Jan24.231044.16138@xenitec.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp