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15 total messages Started by klawrenc Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
IP addressing help needed
#15557
Author: klawrenc
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
any problems when I dial up to the internet?
klawrenc@acadiacom.net
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15556
Author: Steven Davidson
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 00:00
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Refer to RFC1918.  This talks about addresses that are reserved for private
internets.  You can find links to RFCs (by the way, that stands for Request
For Comment, if you didn't know) at www.internic.net.

I hope this helps, 
Steven Davidson
sdavidso@uswest.net

klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in article
<01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
> 
> 
> I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping
through
> a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
> bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
> implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
> any problems when I dial up to the internet?
> klawrenc@acadiacom.net
> 
> 
> 
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15558
Author: John Lucas
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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Shit, just answer the question! I use addresses starting at 192.168.100.1
which are reserved and then add 1 for each additional workstation with a
sub-mask of 255.255.255.0 on all stations.

klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
<01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>
>
>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15559
Author: Anita Maxwell
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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IP addresses are made up of 4 parts. eg 123.123.123.123

In a Class A network the first no. represents the network and the last 3
number represent the node on the network.  Class A networks start with a
number less than 128 e.g. 100.0.0.10

In a Class B network the first 2 no.s represent the network and the last 2
numbers represent the node on the network. Class B networks start with
numbers in the range 128-191 e.g. 128.0.0.10

In a Class C network the first 3 no.s represent the network and the last
number represent the node on the network. Class C networks start with
numbers greater than 191 e.g.192.0.0.10

The Internet is a class C network.

Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
greater than 191.
The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.

Hope this helps.

klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
<01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>
>
>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15560
Author: Nathan Boydston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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In comp.protocols.tcp-ip Anita Maxwell <amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:
: The Internet is a class C network.

The Internet uses the IP addressing scheme, and while some people have
been _assigned_ Class C network numbers, there are networks of every class
connected.

On a class A network, the administrator of said network has the authority
to use any address between K.0.0.0 and K.255.255.255 on his or her
network.

On a class B network, the administrator of that network has the right to
use only addresses between K.L.0.0 and K.L.255.255.

On a class C network, he or she can only use K.L.M.0 through K.L.M.255.

What this allows is a few big networks (A's), a bunch of midsized
networks (B's), and a bunch of small networks (C's).

HTH. HAND.

-- 
drpepper@frii.com
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15561
Author: Ian G Batten
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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In article <ehjNR8iu9GA.211@uppssnewspub05.moswest.msn.net>,
Anita Maxwell <amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:
> The Internet is a class C network.

May I suggest that if you don't have the slightest idea of what you're
talking about, you need quiet?

> Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
> greater than 191.

Yeah, right.  Let's send some mail to British Telecom.  Oh look, it
seems their mail relays are all on network 132.146, which looks like a
Class B to me. Perhaps they're not on the Internet?  Maybe I'll send
some mail to my ISP to complain?  Oh look, their mail exchangers are on
network 38, which looks amazingly like a Class A, so they're not on the
Internet either.  Maybe I'd best ask some academics for advice, like the
people at MIT.  Damn, they're on network 18 (Class A) and Stanford
University are on, inter alia, network 36 (Class A).  Perhaps they've
all fallen off the Internet too?  Maybe I should ask HP, they make
computers.  Damn, network 15.  DEC (network 16) seem to be in trouble
too.

ian
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Re: IP addressing help needed
#15562
Author: Miguel Cruz
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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Anita Maxwell <amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:
> The Internet is a class C network.
>
> Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
> greater than 191.
>
> The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
> any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.

Unfortunately this isn't true at all. The internet is not a class C network.
It's just a network.

There are about a dozen class A and a whole lot of class B networks in use, and
there is no reason to think they will go away.

There are very specific IP ranges which have been allocated for internal,
non-routed networks:

  10.*.*.*
  172.16.*.* - 172.31.*.*
  192.168.*.*

Using anything else is asking for problems.

miguel
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15563
Author: Mike Christie
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:00
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Use a 10.x.x.x addressing scheme, 10.x is not used on the internet. So you
will not have any problems.

Regards

Mike Christie

klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
<01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>
>
>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15564
Author: Raghavan V Parthasarathy
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 00:00
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Anita Maxwell wrote:

>
>
> The Internet is a class C network.
>
> Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
> greater than 191.
> The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
> any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.
>

    Do you mean to say that there are no class A or Class B networks connected
to the internet ???

>
>
> klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
> <01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
> >
> >
> >I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
> >a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
> >bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
> >implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
> >any problems when I dial up to the internet?
> >klawrenc@acadiacom.net
> >
> >
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15565
Author: Robert Truesdale
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:00
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Raghavan V Parthasarathy wrote:

> Anita Maxwell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The Internet is a class C network.
> >
> > Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
> > greater than 191.
> > The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
> > any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.
> >

Hey this was going to be my question.. Thanks for asking...

Without class A and class B addresses there would be no internet...

To answer the question you could use 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0 within your local
network and then run a proxy server on one of your machines to proxy out to the
internet. Or get a program called wingate to set it all up in just a few min...
Good luck.

>
>
>     Do you mean to say that there are no class A or Class B networks connected
> to the internet ???
>
> >
> >
> > klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
> > <01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
> > >
> > >
> > >I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
> > >a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
> > >bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
> > >implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
> > >any problems when I dial up to the internet?
> > >klawrenc@acadiacom.net
> > >
> > >
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15566
Author: yaright
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 00:00
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Lets all sing Anita Miller is a stupid b&%&! in D minor


On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:56:03 +0100, "Anita Maxwell"
<amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:

>IP addresses are made up of 4 parts. eg 123.123.123.123
>
>In a Class A network the first no. represents the network and the last 3
>number represent the node on the network.  Class A networks start with a
>number less than 128 e.g. 100.0.0.10
>
>In a Class B network the first 2 no.s represent the network and the last 2
>numbers represent the node on the network. Class B networks start with
>numbers in the range 128-191 e.g. 128.0.0.10
>
>In a Class C network the first 3 no.s represent the network and the last
>number represent the node on the network. Class C networks start with
>numbers greater than 191 e.g.192.0.0.10
>
>The Internet is a class C network.
>
>Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
>greater than 191.
>The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
>any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
><01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>>
>>
>>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>>
>>
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15567
Author: Greg Hansen
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 00:00
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Lets all sing Anita Miller is a stupid b%^#$  (in D Minor)!


On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:56:03 +0100, "Anita Maxwell"
<amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:

>IP addresses are made up of 4 parts. eg 123.123.123.123
>
>In a Class A network the first no. represents the network and the last 3
>number represent the node on the network.  Class A networks start with a
>number less than 128 e.g. 100.0.0.10
>
>In a Class B network the first 2 no.s represent the network and the last 2
>numbers represent the node on the network. Class B networks start with
>numbers in the range 128-191 e.g. 128.0.0.10
>
>In a Class C network the first 3 no.s represent the network and the last
>number represent the node on the network. Class C networks start with
>numbers greater than 191 e.g.192.0.0.10
>
>The Internet is a class C network.
>
>Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
>greater than 191.
>The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
>any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
><01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>>
>>
>>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>>
>>
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15568
Author: Greg Hansen
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 00:00
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Lets all sing Anita Miller is a stupid b*#^% in D minor.

On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:56:03 +0100, "Anita Maxwell"
<amaxwell@sedgefield.gov.uk> wrote:

>IP addresses are made up of 4 parts. eg 123.123.123.123
>
>In a Class A network the first no. represents the network and the last 3
>number represent the node on the network.  Class A networks start with a
>number less than 128 e.g. 100.0.0.10
>
>In a Class B network the first 2 no.s represent the network and the last 2
>numbers represent the node on the network. Class B networks start with
>numbers in the range 128-191 e.g. 128.0.0.10
>
>In a Class C network the first 3 no.s represent the network and the last
>number represent the node on the network. Class C networks start with
>numbers greater than 191 e.g.192.0.0.10
>
>The Internet is a class C network.
>
>Therefore calls to the internet are using IP address where the first no. is
>greater than 191.
>The IP Address determines the network class, therfore you should not have
>any problems if you use addresses which have the first no. less than 192.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>klawrenc@acadiacom.net wrote in message
><01bdb9d2$bfc87ca0$LocalHost@compaq95>...
>>
>>
>>I have two desk tops at home and have networked win95 workgrouping through
>>a linksys 10mips 5port hub.  I have a dial up account with an ISP.   I
>>bought some time ago NT40.   What dummy ip addressing scheme can I
>>implement with nt at home playing with tcp/ip protocol, that won't cause
>>any problems when I dial up to the internet?
>>klawrenc@acadiacom.net
>>
>>
>
>
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15569
Author: Steve Spires
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:00
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Greg Hansen wrote:
> 
> Lets all sing Anita Miller is a stupid b%^#$  (in D Minor)!
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:56:03 +0100, "Anita Maxwell"
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[cut...]

Hmmm...

Not so clever yourself ;-)

Steve Spires
Re: IP addressing help needed
#15570
Author: Greg Hansen
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:00
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:16:17 +0100, Steve Spires
<sspires1@fordNO.SPAMcom> wrote:

>Greg Hansen wrote:
>> 
>> Lets all sing Anita Miller is a stupid b%^#$  (in D Minor)!
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:56:03 +0100, "Anita Maxwell"
>                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>[cut...]
>
>Hmmm...
>
>Not so clever yourself ;-)
>
>Steve Spires


Okay.. Lets all sing Greg Hansen is a stupid b@!@#$! (in C Minor)
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