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Started by Professeur Alfred
Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:00
Locate an IP number on the planet
Author: Professeur Alfred
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:00
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I wish someone can tell me where I can find a good web site about this or someone who knows this topic enough to give me an answer. I explain. I'm building a new website and I would like to know if it's possible to find the country of a caller on the web. I would like to send some specific informations to people for their region. I know the IP number is an address. But I don't know if there's some lists on the net to find the region of a caller by his (or her) address. When I call for a page on the web, how the initial server send me the message? I don't think they have to scan all the Internet to send a block. If you answer me by e-mail, retrieve the xyz from my e-mail address: sgautxyz@videotron.ca
Re: Locate an IP number on the planet
Author: Miguel Cruz
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
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Professeur Alfred <ughridkxyz@hotmail.com> wrote: > I wish someone can tell me where I can find a good web site about this or > someone who knows this topic enough to give me an answer. I explain. I'm > building a new website and I would like to know if it's possible to find > the country of a caller on the web. I would like to send some specific > informations to people for their region. I know the IP number is an > address. But I don't know if there's some lists on the net to find the > region of a caller by his (or her) address. There is no reliable way to do this. You can guess, but you will often be wrong. Possible sources of physical location information: * look up the IP number in ARIN's whois database * do a reverse DNS on the IP number and look up the resulting name in the appropriate whois database, or just pick a country based on that, if it provides sufficient granularity for your application * ask the user * rely on the poorly-supported DNS LOC record type Each of these has a very high capacity for error, whether through deliberate attempts to mislead you or unfortunate accident. > When I call for a page on the web, how the initial server send me the > message? I don't think they have to scan all the Internet to send a block. Routers between you and as remote site work out a path along the topography of the internet, but it doesn't have much to do with geography. They just know which router connects to which other router. They don't know where they are. miguel
Re: Locate an IP number on the planet
Author: Petr Soucek
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:00
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There is no 100% reliable way, but you can use following: IP address -> country conversion you can find in whois databases, for RIPE assigned numbers (EMEA region) whois.ripe.net, example of output: inetnum: 194.24.231.0 - 194.24.231.255 netname: RYSTON-NET descr: RYSTON electronics, s. r. o. descr: Prague country: CZ But, unfortunately, not all customers' networks are correctly written in whois databases. E.g. 195.119.160.0/19 is network of Global One in Czech Republic, but in RIPE you can find only: inetnum: 195.119.0.0 - 195.119.255.255 netname: EU-GLOBALONE-NORTH-970327 descr: Provider Local Registry descr: Global One country: EU For APNIC assigned numbers (Asia Pacific region) whois.apnic.net, example of output: inetnum: 203.10.0.0 - 203.10.0.255 netname: CONCREALITY-AU descr: Concurrent Reality Pty Ltd descr: 22 Kangaroo Road descr: Collaroy Plateau descr: NSW 2097 country: AU for the whole world whois.arin.net, but there is no structured country information, example of output: Prague Institute of Chemical Technology (NET-DAMIS) Computer Center - DAMIS Technicka 5 Prague 6, 166 28 CZECHOSLOVAKIA Netname: DAMIS Netnumber: 147.32.0.0 BUT, there may be a big problem - transparent proxy caches. In this case, you'll receive IP address of proxy cache only and you have to do one of the following: 1. disallow caching, or 2. look for "via" in http header. Professeur Alfred wrote: > > I wish someone can tell me where I can find a good web site about this or > someone who knows this topic enough to give me an answer. I explain. I'm > building a new website and I would like to know if it's possible to find the > country of a caller on the web. I would like to send some specific > informations to people for their region. I know the IP number is an address. > But I don't know if there's some lists on the net to find the region of a > caller by his (or her) address. > > When I call for a page on the web, how the initial server send me the > message? I don't think they have to scan all the Internet to send a block. > > If you answer me by e-mail, retrieve the xyz from my e-mail address: > sgautxyz@videotron.ca
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