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Article #841Re: Bell of PA
From: Matt Healy
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:17
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:17
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In article <1992Dec15.161155.4773@fccc.edu>, stodola@orion.fccc.edu (Robert K. Stodola) wrote: > > This is probably a FAQ question, but... > > When I first put up NTP (a long time ago), I noted that Bell of PA time was > two seconds faster than my computers time. Today its off by the same two > seconds. One of them is obviously very reliably wrong (I lean towards > Bell). It does seem rather curious, especially since its fast rather than > slow, which might be explained by other types of delays. > > I know the phone company would probably tell me that in a disagreement between > reality and Bell, they are definitive, but if anyone has an explanation of > this phenomena, I'd like to hear it. > > -- > > stodola@fccc.edu -- Robert K. Stodola (occasionally) speaks for himself. Welcome to the wonderful world of highly accurate time! The Internet document RFC 1305 -- which defines Network Time Protocol -- has an extensive discussion of the things that can go wrong with time services. Yale's campus network time server frequently drifts a bit, too -- right now it is off by about 1 second. Local phone companies can be even worse. Personally, I rely most on my el cheapo wristwatch, which I *know* gains about 0.093 seconds per day. I check it fairly frequently against the NIST clock (available on various frequencies with a shortwave radio, or you can phone 303-499-7111). About once a week I do a linear regresion of error versus day of the year for the past 6 months, discard all values that are off by more than 0.6 second, and recompute the regression line. This way I am confident I always *know* the time to within +/- 0.25 second. Theoretically computers "should" be able to do better than 0.25 second, but I've yet to encounter any that do. [for those who may be curious: It is a CASIO F-24W for which I paid 15 dollars ca. 5 years ago. I have never even replaced a battery, and it has never to my knowledge deviated significantly from the 0.093 second per day rate I quoted above. The packaging claimed the lithium battery was good for 7 years.] Matt Healy "I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab net pretends to work" matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!yale.edu!news.yale.edu!wardmac1.med.yale.edu!user From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) Subject: Re: Bell of PA Message-ID: <matt-161292135748@wardmac1.med.yale.edu> Followup-To: comp.protocols.time.ntp Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: wardmac1.med.yale.edu Organization: Yale U. - Genetics References: <1992Dec15.161155.4773@fccc.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:17:58 GMT Lines: 52