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Article #204Re: A Cyborg Bill of Rights
From: Rick Harker
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:00
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Malcolm MacLeod & Others wrote: /snipped/ Why is it that some you people cannot see that Arthur is *trying* to give us (AI) a start? Does it matter that he is/not a sophomore college student; that he does/not use the exact words /you/ would use. So far I have seen no one but Arthur and a few others making any progress, and having the courage to post it to the net without some wanna-be geniuses putting down their work. > WHO is granting all of these "rights" to robots? You? He is not granting them (duh!) He is proposing, suggesting, them to us. Actually his exact words were "follow the noetic pathway". Catch the keyword, 'follow'. > Why should robots have some "rights" not even granted to humans? Because supposedly they are supposed to be the next step in evolution (according to some). (I will give my pentiums more 'rights' than I will give my 286... > > * A robot has the right to privacy on the Internet, > > which includes participation in online forums without > > identification as a cyborg and without Turing tests. I suppose you quoted this as an example to support you anti-human right comment. What he was suggesting (think of history) was that robots cannot be excluded from the net (i.e. usenet, chatrooms). Think prejudice. Think black people (robots) being excluded because they were not 'human'. > YOU didn't pass the Turing test! Do you know this for a fact? Arthur, have you taken a test. Any ways, this is irrelevant; he said "A robot has..." > Therefore you aren't a person, and I don't have to deal with you any more. Aye, the age-old idea of classifying something as inferior so you can deal with it. Bullies usually use this tactic on school playgrounds. And humans with 'different' neighbors. > Have you made up a right exempting you robots from kill filters? If a robot is posting 'junk' I don't like to this group, I can add its name to my kill filter AND it will NOT violate what Arthur has said. > PLONK! More like, Plunk-U. His diagram makes sense to me, what is your problem? -- "Epert sart as" -Humfrey the Expert Wrestler [Britain, Pacific] (Part-time Animal Tamer, Fletcher, Identifier, Tailor, Wizard, Wrestler, and all around nice guy. Look for the guy in the blue hat and robe) ...if ye say "AIBrain", I'll give thee 500 gold pieces!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: f537a,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gidf537a,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10461e,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid10461e,public X-Google-Thread: 10ec46,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid10ec46,public From: Rick Harker <aibrain@usa.net> Subject: Re: A Cyborg Bill of Rights Date: 1998/07/21 Message-ID: <35B48723.A0F8C2C@usa.net> X-Deja-AN: 373481880 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35b3473a.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> <6p1n0p$ra3@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Idaho State University Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.ai,bionet.neuroscience,soc.rights.human,alt.extropians