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Article #207Re: A hypothetical example...
From: Tony Johnson
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:00
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Jason Earle wrote: > If that is the extent of your program, then No, followed by another No. > However, if these values are used to control the outputs and actions of > a larger, more complex program that was responsible for multiple tasks, > one of which (not highest priority, but close) being to keep pain off > and pleasure on, one could start to debate... Especially if the > pressence of PAIN = 1 (PLEASURE = 0) would hinder the completion of the > other tasks, or lead to destruction of the software. Otherwise, PAIN is > simply a boolean variable that has no bearing on function - it is > neither good nor bad. > However, by modifying the program to accept a user input of BEER, which > could be an unsigned floating pt. number (think of those half full cans > at the end of a party), you might create a bias such that none of the > outputs in the given range could cause PLEASURE to go low. Think about > it. Ok, so lets say we have a program like the one you described. But lets say that the variables are given different names, What you are implying is that any mathematical system of some particular nature is conscious. Suppose that I were to write this program down on paper and execute with a pencil, would the pen and pencil then be a conscious being??? > umm...what is, wavelength? I'll take e-mag radiation for $300, > Alex... > > -Jason "Looooooeeeeeee" Earle So what you're saying is that you can see the tiny photons and can measure their wavelengths. Perhaps I didn't state the question correctly. The point is that you can tell the difference between red and blue from you're own DIRECT observations, but you can't quantity it??? Hence implying that there is more to this Universe than appears...
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: f537a,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gidf537a,public X-Google-Thread: 10461e,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid10461e,public X-Google-Thread: 10ec46,4ddf1e1dd378659f X-Google-Attributes: gid10ec46,public From: Tony Johnson <tony.johnson@juno.com> Subject: Re: A hypothetical example... Date: 1998/07/21 Message-ID: <35B4DF1D.F56F362C@juno.com> X-Deja-AN: 373586220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35b3473a.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> <35B397A7.BF6F010D@juno.com> <35B37786.8856EDD@bah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: MCI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:34:47 GMT Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.ai,bionet.neuroscience,soc.rights.human,alt.extropians