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Article #98Re: Marvin Minsky 'blasts' AI research in Wired
From: Arthur T. Murray
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:02
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:02
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http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/ai4udex.html#hans Hans Moravec wrote: > Gerald Coe <devantech@devantech.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> The 1000 to 10,000 neurons of the bee should be >> a more realistic challenge. > > I think typical bees have about a million neurons > > A slug has tens of thousands of neurons > > Even the microscopic 1 mm long nematode C.Elegans > has about 360 neurons > A top-down theory of robotic AI therefore has a better chance at http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html true AI than slow, inadequate, bottom-up re-constructions of evolution :-) > > By my guesstimate it needs about 1 billion calculations/second, > cleverly programmed, to do the job of a 1 million neuron circuit > (functionally emulating the external neural I/O behavior as > efficiently as possible, not trying to simulate individual > neurons: that would take much, much more computation) > > <http://www.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/book97/ch3/retina.comment.html> > > <http://www.ri.cmu.edu/~hpm/talks/revo.slides/power.aug.curve/power.aug.html> ATM -- http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/theory5.html -- AI4U Theory of Mind; http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/jsaimind.html -- Tutorial "Mind-1.1" http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/mind4th.html -- Mind.Forth Robot AI; http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/ai4udex.html -- Index for book: AI4U
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,926b0323e7603390 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: f8362,8692fd9c9cfb8968,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf8362,public X-Google-Thread: 10ca9b,3cade87b9a900012 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ca9b,public X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,8692fd9c9cfb8968,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-17 09:02:44 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!news.victoria.tc.ca!199.60.222.3 From: uj797@victoria.tc.ca (Arthur T. Murray) Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.ai.philosophy,comp.theory,bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Marvin Minsky 'blasts' AI research in Wired Followup-To: comp.robotics.misc Date: 17 May 2003 09:02:40 -0800 Organization: Victoria Telecommunity Network Message-ID: <3ec65d20@news.victoria.tc.ca> References: <160520030138484483%hpmhpm@cmu.edu> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.60.222.3 XPident: uj797 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 35