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Article #105Re: Cuervo, I disagree: ShareSniffer Released
From: John Navas
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:49
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:49
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In <u7jj9ts0steh0ktna13h5e0ltf07qu9u8f@4ax.com>, rtoledo@gte.net wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:35:21 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter@navasgrp.dublin.ca.us> wrote:
>>The difference is that you are authorized. You aren't authorized to
>>scan my system. ...
>>ROTFL. I can't tell you how many people have made that kind of claim
>>only to be compromised.
>>
>>"Security is a process, not a product."
>> - Bruce Schneier
>
> John on this we will always disagree,
You may well be right.
>I am arguing this one
>because I believe in freedom above all, I do respect others and expect
>the same, I don't want the big brother that some of us are settleing
>for
It might surprise you to know that I also believe in freedom; it's just
that your freedom ends where mine begins -- you are not free to enter my
private property without authorization. What makes you think that you
are? If you do have respect for others, why would you do so?
> As for believing that I'm inpenetrable, NO I don't think it
>for a second, but my argument is this, IF they get in, then they have
>trespassed against me and have gone BEYOND pinging my door, more like
>they drove in under the rug "literally"
So you have no objection to everyone trying to open the doors of your
house? You wouldn't call "big brother" to put a stop to it?
> I hate to think that this government will soon be doing what
>England is now doing openly, that is reading all email going in and
>out, and while the are units within this country that might be doing
>it too, at least it's happening at the risk of jail (I hope) I they
>get caught
Sorry, but I see no relevance to the subject at hand.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
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