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Re: Warning: ShareSniffer Released

#203
From: Oberiss
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:08
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Yet if all computers were to be made specifically to protect a "typical home
user" from a security breach, therefore limiting the users' ability to
customize and configure and do whatever they want to thier own pc, you would
be the first to cry for your good ol' "defective design" computer back.



"John Navas" <spamfilter@navasgrp.dublin.ca.us> wrote in message
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> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable; PLEASE REPLY THERE]
>
> In <976mhu$itt$1@news.panix.com>, snorwood@redballoon.net (Scott
> Norwood) wrote:
>
> >In article <4ald9tgo6bku8v49seqqgjk22064nqdetr@4ax.com>,
> >Mike  <no@no.dont.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>Oh, so its the victims fault? Clueless they might be...so what? Do you
> >>know all there is to know about everything you own? Are you positive the
> >>vehicle you drive doesn't have a defect that could injure yourself or
> >>another? Trust is the key word here. How about blaming the software
> >>developer for the design decision, or lack thereof, for shares being
> >>automatically exposed to the 'net.
> >
> >Are you implying that bad drivers should sue car manufacturers for
> >every accident for failure to make a vehicle that is accident-proof?
> >
> >Seriously, if you don't know how to drive, you shouldn't be behind
> >the wheel.  If you don't know enough to run a reasonably secure OS
> >and configure it properly (and can't find someone else to help you
> >do so), you shouldn't be running a computer on a public, untrusted
> >network with any expectation that the OS will not be compromised.
> >
> >This isn't "blaming the victim" so much as it is common sense.
>
> With all due respect, this is a matter of defective design, not cockpit
> error.  When someone gets seriously injured because Firestone tires
> separated, you blame Firestone, not the hapless driver that was
> unfortunate enough to buy and use them.  The problem here is that
> computers being sold to average people are inherently and inexcusably
> insecure.  Average people shouldn't have to be security experts to use
> computers on the Internet any more than they should have to be
> automotive experts to drive a car on the road.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John Navas     <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
>      CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE:  <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
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