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Article #217Re: Warning: ShareSniffer Released
From: John Navas
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:04
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:04
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In <mgg-E47F6A.08453724022001@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Michael Gardner
<mgg@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>In article <zgBl6.3896$S25.55135@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter@navasgrp.dublin.ca.us> wrote:
>> With all due respect, this is a matter of defective design, not cockpit
>> error. When someone gets seriously injured because Firestone tires
>> separated, you blame Firestone, not the hapless driver that was
>> unfortunate enough to buy and use them. The problem here is that
>
>Awww come-on. I'm so tired of hearing this stupid excuse as well. Those
>tires didn't just explode on the road. Tires take hundreds if not thousands
>of miles to separate that badly. All that time, they are making noises,
>getting louder and louder. Most were so ignorant of the the vehicle they
>operate that they drove the tires to destruction when there was plenty of
>warning. Sure, Firestone made tires that were defective, and drivers drove
>them to pieces, blithely ignoring all signs of impending doom.
That's a pretty serious charge that's contrary to the evidence I've seen
-- got anything to back it up? ;-)
>> computers being sold to average people are inherently and inexcusably
>> insecure. Average people shouldn't have to be security experts to use
>> computers on the Internet any more than they should have to be
>> automotive experts to drive a car on the road.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
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