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Article #239Re: Warning: ShareSniffer Released
From: Philip J. Koenig
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:54
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:54
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In article <9764ua$d8f$1@news.panix.com>, snorwood@redballoon.net (Scott Norwood) writes... > > In article <1orc9t0dblf72e35c9vvjj562kfff17vmm@can.gov>, > Joe King <cluelessnewbie*@home.com> wrote: > > > >It might also force some of the broadband cable operators to take a > >more pro-active approach to securing and protecting their subscribers > >with a secure and monitored infrastructure. > > Which would be a bad thing, IMHO. I can understand providers who > scan for open mail relays and other such things which compromise > the entire network (by threatening to have the entire netblock > added to one of the blackhole anti-spam lists), but stuff like > NetBIOS security is not the responsiblity of the ISP. Security is > a user responsibility, and the ISP really should not get involved > by doing things like port-blocking and the like. Providing > information about how to turn off Windows File Sharing and such > would be a good thing for a responsible ISP to do, but anything > beyond that is too much. I tend to agree. Personally while I'm not enamored of people clearly scanning for exploitable hosts, neither am I enamored of ISPs who start micro-managing the activities of their customers. I don't want to encourage that precedent. ISPs IMHO should educate their customers about the risks, and they should have information easily available for their customers to make sure their machines are secure. If they want to provide other security services (scanning for email viruses, blocking trojan ports) I have the same attitude I have with "spam blocking": the customer should be aware and in control. Don't need Big Brother "taking care of me" unless I want to be taken care of. By the same token, people that do silly things to make themselves vulnerable are not without blame. Sure the OS has something to do with it - but no one is forcing them to go get a broadband connection to leave on 24x7 without knowing the implications. Here are my minimum expectations: 1) The OS vendor should design the OS to be reasonably secure by default. 2) The OS vendor should provide warnings whenever enabling potentially dangerous services. If you turn on file-and-printer sharing and there is evidence you have an internet connection (or even if not), a window should popup that says "Warning: activating this feature when connected to a public network like the Internet may provide access to this PC to unwanted users and may represent a potential security risk. Continue?" (how friggin difficult can that be?) 3) The ISPs should educate users as mentioned above and provide resources such as testing links to help ensure customer systems are secure. -- Philip J. Koenig The Electric Kahuna Organization [anti-spammed] ----------------Computers & Communications for the New Millennium------------- * To send email, remove numbers and spaces: pjkunet64 @ ekahuna27 . com * * Vision impaired? Try taking off the blacklist-colored glasses. * * Simple answers are for simple minds. Try a new way of looking at things. *
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f922c,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gidf922c,public X-Google-Thread: 10090f,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gid10090f,public X-Google-Thread: f5dc1,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5dc1,public X-Google-Thread: 113850,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-25 01:56:06 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: See_email_@ddress_below.This_one_is.invalid (Philip J. Koenig) Newsgroups: comp.security.firewalls,bellsouth.net.security,comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.dcom.modems.cable Subject: Re: Warning: ShareSniffer Released Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:54:57 -0800 Organization: The Ekahuna Organization Message-ID: <MPG.15027650a874b29198a012@207.126.101.100> References: <3A966412.9336DCD8@mynetwatchman.com> <1orc9t0dblf72e35c9vvjj562kfff17vmm@can.gov> <9764ua$d8f$1@news.panix.com> X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.10 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 70