🚀 go-pugleaf

Get off it people! If you don't want to use it, uninstall it and get on with
your life! No one is forcing you to use any software you do not want to.
 I suggest everyone kill filter "Bill" as he seems to have a hidden agenda
himself. Could "Bill" possibly be employed by Zonelabs competition? He does
seem to like to forge his headers. Example: root@aurate.com,
root@mediametrix.com, etc, etc. Obviously a Unix\Linux user with paranoid
tendencies and low self esteem in need of serious therapy. (That is if he
can go out without his foil hat) Run Bill, the Venusians are coming! They
want your logon password for the Nudie sites! Run, RUN! ;-)

<root@mediametrix.com> wrote in message
news:scnvms7ga5n86@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a few things to say after Alan....
>
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:38CBD819.34959570@videotron.ca...
> >
> > Dear Zone Labs,
> >
> > As you know very well, your free product "Zone Alarm" has been
> > enthusiastically
> > installed on thousands of PC's to help protect people against
> > unauthorized intrusion.
> > This is more important everyday as the number of cable modem served PC's
> > in North America
> > is estimated to have passed the 2 million mark.  Add to this the number
> > of DSL subscribers
> > and the benefits of good firewalls "for the masses" cannot be
> > underestimated.
> >
> > Unfortunately, there have been a variety of allegations and questions
> > surrounding the
> > "TrueVector" technology inherent to Zone Alarm.  This has raised
> > suspicions that
> > the product is somehow reporting back private information about the
> > "user habits"
> > of users who have installed this wonderful product.
> >
> > I am one of those who has been labeled "paranoid" by several Zone Alarm
> > fans.
> > I am not paranoid.  But I am concerned.  What I do on the internet is MY
> > business,
> > and nobody else's.  If I want to tell you what I do, I'll tell you,
> > otherwise leave me
> > alone.
> >
> > I am also a fan of Zone Alarm (and I've had the thing for only 18
> > hours!), but the
> > allegations, suspicions and questions beg for a simple resolution:
> >
> > Would Zone Labs please publicly certify in a letter on the Zone Labs
> > website, and
> > also in the various apropriate newsgroups that Zone Alarm does not
> > report anything
> > back to Zone Labs or any other company, agency, person, etc. on the
> > contents of the
> > users system that could in anyway be construed as private information,
> > INCLUDING
> > information related to the users "internet habits", contents of files
> > unrelated to
> > Zone Alarm, etc.  I'll leave it to you and (probably) your lawyers to
> > define the exact wording.
> > But get this: people want their privacy RESPECTED in all manners.
> >
> > In fact, if you were to make such a statement while simultaneously
> > introducing a price
> > for this LEAN, effective and professional product, I would be among the
> > first in a line
> > of thousands to purchase a licence.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Alan Browne.
> >
>
> **************************************
> from: http://www.zonelabs.com/truevector_overview.htm
>
> "Monitor and log Internet activity on individual PCs, enabling your
> application to implement panel metering, audience measurement and usage
> reporting, stored in an object-oriented database."
>
> <<<<Ah! there we are, there's the Iamdb.rdb file, which, I now realise, is
> actually the Internet Access Monitor Database.... or is it? Perhap's it's
> "Internet Audience Measurement Database", sounds like that's up Media
> Metrix's street. Or maybe it's.... well, I'll be interested what they
> eventually come up with to make it sound okay>>>>>
>
> read the rest yourself at the URL given above, and what about this from:
>  http://www.zonelabs.com/truevector_benefits.htm
> "Developers can now create state-of-the-art, intelligent Internet
> applications that monitor personal computer interaction with the Internet
at
> a granular level. They can use TrueVector to gather detailed data
>
> <<<<what was that?? Just let me lift my ear-trumpet to my ear, didn't
quite
> catch that>>>>>
>
> about a wide range of Internet activities, and react
>
> <<<<<react??????>>>>>
>
> according to very specific rules. TrueVector Technology gives developers
the
> power and precision they need."
>
> <<<<the power and precision they need for *what*? This was not written for
> US, the humble punter, this is for THEM, Zone Lab's partners in..... oh,
the
> word escapes me>>>>
>
> and now, from: http://www.zonelabs.com/truevector_monitoring.htm
> "Monitoring Internet Access
> TrueVector Technology enables developers to create applications to monitor
> and control Internet activity on individual PCs."
>
> <<<<open sesame to your PC for "developers">>>>>>
>
> *********************
> I have since found another uninstalled TrueVector file, vsdata95.vxd, so
add
> that to the list. Some people say this is all just paranoia, other people
> are concerned and feel they have been deceived. That's how I feel, the
> latter. I see there is now a page up at the Zone Labs site explaining what
> TrueVector files are put on your PC. They say: "If you want to
double-check
> the work of the uninstaller, or if you suspect you may have a broken
> installation/uninstallation, this document contains the complete list of
> files and registry entries to check. The uninstaller should remove all of
> the ZoneAlarm program files.  If ZoneAlarm is your only client of the
> TrueVector Internet monitoring service (this is usually the case, unless
you
> installed Internet Access Monitor), the uninstaller should remove the
> TrueVector service files also."
>
> Well, in my case it didn't. How about they get their pal Steve Gibson to
> design a TrueVector removal application (he must be getting bored with the
> Aureate removal tool, he's been working on it so long) rather than expect
> you and I to go messing around in our registries and tracking down and
> deleting locked DLLs and rdb files. Let's face it, if we're so stupid (and
I
> count myself here as well) as to place our trust in Zone Alarm in the
first
> place then we're really not up to fiddling around in our registries are
we?
>
> Do you want to know why I think supporters of Zone Alarm are aiming so
much
> flack and ridicule at those who are raising these questions of  TrueVector
> technology? Because they are starting to realise what fools they've been,
> but it just hasn't sunk in yet so they've gone into denial hoping some
> "expert" (who is also a fool) will set them right and tell them they have
> nothing to worry about. It's one thing to fall for it, it's another thing
to
> insist on staying dumb after the facts emerge and yet another corporate
> busybody has been caught in the act of preparing their assault on our
> privacy.
>
> I personally am glad to be rid of this infestation called "TrueVector".
> Others may choose to believe the company line about a "broken
> uninstallation".  Well, in the next few days I'll wager we'll see what the
> size of the problem is because I expect there will be quite a few attempts
> at uninstallation, if only to see if it works as Zone Alarm says it should
> do. Trust your own eyes not the sockpuppets you read here. But at least
> you're all a *lot* better informed now eh?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>