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Article #56Re: Cuervo, I disagree: ShareSniffer Released
From: John Navas
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:01
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:01
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In <snq1at07tmautg2op62cg6r3u8pbrbje2r@4ax.com>, rtoledo@gte.net wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:33:27 -0600, "mirayge" <mi_rayge@notyahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>><rtoledo@gte.net> wrote in message
>>news:2h60at0jhvufs0uk85enkcepmdanqc8ljs@4ax.com...
>><snip>
>>> If it's top secret and it's hooked up then I'm schocked! I had this
>>> idea probably from watching too many movies that we had *some*
>>> inteligence in our inteligence agencies. I guess we do learn something
>>> new every day ;) (just a splash of sarcasm) all this time I thought
>>> those buildings and their EMF/EMW shielding was there to keep snoopers
>>> from hearing those keys and monitors, but since you say they are
>>> online I guess it's just another waste of our money
>>Heh heh, read this:
>>http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010302/tc/crime_space_dc_1.html
>>
>Amazing, I do read these stories and hope that the stuff being stolen
>while secret and expensive intellectual property has to be useless to
>most except those that would have the equiptment and means to access a
>satellite in space, still I have to wonder where if any one with any
>brains is still left working in our government, from our main puppet
>head down to the new kids being recruited.
You seem to assume that security is relatively straightforward. The
real problem is that it's not straightforward -- what you don't know can
and all too often does hurt you. Even with smart people and sufficient
resources there will still be security breaches because the issues are
enormously complex. Furthermore the government has the additional
problems of such things as budgets and mandates which can greatly
complicate security issues. I'm not saying that there is no stupidity,
just that the problem is nowhere near as simple as we might think.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
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