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Started by Mike Oxlong
Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:09
Re: FW-1 / Nokia Password Problem - Follow-up Question
Author: Mike Oxlong
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:09
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:09
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I have one more question... I have tried to interrupt the boot process by hitting every key combination that I can think of - could you please detail the process required to get me to the BOOTMGR> prompt. (I should have mentioned that I don't know my way around UNIX very well!!) Regards, Mike > > > "Greg Hennessy" <cmkrnl@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message > news:2jg8utkaf2mhp798gihku3oqgb3kr0kvp5@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:07:27 GMT, Jacques Bourdeau > > <J_Bourdeau@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >for a Unix system, its always possible : remove the hard disk from the > > >locked device, insert it in a Unix under your control, boot this > > >controlled > > >Unix, mount the HD containing the locked Unix and change / remove the > > >root > > >password or promote a user with a known password to UID 0. > > > > > > Its pretty obvious Jacques that you have never worked with Nokias to make > a > > statement like that. > > > > Password Recovery on an IP series is trivial once one has access to the > > console. > > > > Abridged from resolution 692 on http://support.nokia.com/ > > > > Interrupt the boot process and boot it single user by issuing "boot -s" at > > the BOOTMGR> Prompt. > > > > run /etc/overpw to blank out the old password. > > > > reboot the box et voila. IIRC 3.4 is marginally more involved as it > doesn't > > like blank passwords. But that trivial compared to ripping the hard disk > > out. > > > > Note to Mike : Get yourself access to the Nokia KB PDQ, its very > > comprehensive & will aid you in your quest. > > Whilsts you are in single user mode on the module 'rm /active/config' also > > to get rid of any existing config. > > > > > > > > > > > >For FW-1 module, it can be more difficult. Some application (like Entrust > > >and surely FW-1) do their own authentication with their own UID/PSSWD > > >database. Having full control or not on the underlaying OS is useless for > > >doing authentication on these application. > > > > Wrong! > > > > > > > > > >I do not know exactly how FW-1 do, but its can be unrecoverable. > > > > You haven't worked with FW-1 either given that its trivial to add a new > > superuser to the module using "fwm -a" from the shell as documented here > > > > http://www.phoneboy.com/faq/0099.html > > > > > > > > greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jacques Bourdeau > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > >On 11/3/01, 8:23:09 AM, "Mike Oxlong" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote regarding > > >FW-1 / Nokia Password Problem: > > > > > > > > >> I have been asked to look at a repossessed Nokia IP330 running > Firewall-1 > > >> but do not have the login/passwords for the Unix Administrator and also > > >for > > >> FW-1. > > > > > >> I am a Cisco person but don't know my way around Unix or FW-1 very > well, > > >is > > >> there a password recovery process that I can use? > > > > > >> Thanks in advance, > > > > > >> Mike > > > >
Re: FW-1 / Nokia Password Problem - Follow-up Question
Author: Greg Hennessy
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:06
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:06
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:09:16 -0000, "Mike Oxlong" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >I have one more question... Drop me a mail m8. greg > >I have tried to interrupt the boot process by hitting every key combination >that I can think of - could you please detail the process required to get me >to the BOOTMGR> prompt. (I should have mentioned that I don't know my way >around UNIX very well!!) > >Regards, > >Mike > >> >> >> "Greg Hennessy" <cmkrnl@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:2jg8utkaf2mhp798gihku3oqgb3kr0kvp5@4ax.com... >> > On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:07:27 GMT, Jacques Bourdeau >> > <J_Bourdeau@videotron.ca> wrote: >> > >> > >Hi, >> > > >> > >for a Unix system, its always possible : remove the hard disk from the >> > >locked device, insert it in a Unix under your control, boot this >> > >controlled >> > >Unix, mount the HD containing the locked Unix and change / remove the >> > >root >> > >password or promote a user with a known password to UID 0. >> > >> > >> > Its pretty obvious Jacques that you have never worked with Nokias to >make >> a >> > statement like that. >> > >> > Password Recovery on an IP series is trivial once one has access to the >> > console. >> > >> > Abridged from resolution 692 on http://support.nokia.com/ >> > >> > Interrupt the boot process and boot it single user by issuing "boot -s" >at >> > the BOOTMGR> Prompt. >> > >> > run /etc/overpw to blank out the old password. >> > >> > reboot the box et voila. IIRC 3.4 is marginally more involved as it >> doesn't >> > like blank passwords. But that trivial compared to ripping the hard disk >> > out. >> > >> > Note to Mike : Get yourself access to the Nokia KB PDQ, its very >> > comprehensive & will aid you in your quest. >> > Whilsts you are in single user mode on the module 'rm /active/config' >also >> > to get rid of any existing config. >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >For FW-1 module, it can be more difficult. Some application (like >Entrust >> > >and surely FW-1) do their own authentication with their own UID/PSSWD >> > >database. Having full control or not on the underlaying OS is useless >for >> > >doing authentication on these application. >> > >> > Wrong! >> > >> > >> > > >> > >I do not know exactly how FW-1 do, but its can be unrecoverable. >> > >> > You haven't worked with FW-1 either given that its trivial to add a new >> > superuser to the module using "fwm -a" from the shell as documented here >> > >> > http://www.phoneboy.com/faq/0099.html >> > >> > >> > >> > greg >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >Jacques Bourdeau >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> > > >> > >On 11/3/01, 8:23:09 AM, "Mike Oxlong" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote >regarding >> > >FW-1 / Nokia Password Problem: >> > > >> > > >> > >> I have been asked to look at a repossessed Nokia IP330 running >> Firewall-1 >> > >> but do not have the login/passwords for the Unix Administrator and >also >> > >for >> > >> FW-1. >> > > >> > >> I am a Cisco person but don't know my way around Unix or FW-1 very >> well, >> > >is >> > >> there a password recovery process that I can use? >> > > >> > >> Thanks in advance, >> > > >> > >> Mike >> > >> >> >
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